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Old 08-26-2009, 08:58 AM   #1
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Coasting with engine off

When you and maybe a buddy or two are out on a lonely deserted road in the middle of nowhere and you are at the top of a big hill, have you been tempted to push off and ride down without the engine on and see how far you can each coast?

It's fun as hell.

You really learn how to set up corners without using the brakes and avoid using any brakes at all costs. Being smooth initiating the turns is important too as just the act of pitching the bike into a hard corner really can slow it down (amazing to demonstrate to yourself just how much corners act as a brake).

I'm sure there will be the fair share of safety ninnies who are going to chime in about how "dangerous" this is...

With only the sound of your tires, the chain snickering around the sprockets, the wind noise and maybe a little bit of brake pad dragging the quietness of the experience is almost zen-like.

Anyone else?
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:15 AM   #2
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Never have myself, but I've heard folks tell of doing so. Sounds fun.

This could be a total bullshit story, but my brother knows someone who claims that he and his friends ride a particularly long hill with numerous curves in Cincinnati that way. The twist is that they ride with no hands and see who can go the farthest without having to grab the handlebars. Never seen it done, so I can't attest to the veracity of the story.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:13 AM   #3
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When doing that, what do you think is safer? Neutral or holding the clutch in? It seems to me that if you were in neutral and you accidentally bump the shifter into 1st or 2nd then you better be ready to hold on
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:27 AM   #4
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No clutch, just keep your foot away from the shifter and enjoy the glide! I've only done this coasting thing on little bikes but totally enjoyed it.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:31 AM   #5
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:32 AM   #6
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Great, now I'm missing hills even more. Thanks.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:34 AM   #7
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This could be a total bullshit story, The twist is that they ride with no hands and see who can go the farthest without having to grab the handlebars. Never seen it done, so I can't attest to the veracity of the story.
why bullshit.?..I do this all the time when I come down the state park road near my house...very curvy...slip into nuetral and control with you weight...
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:52 AM   #8
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I've done it on the pavement, gravel, and single track.

It's just another way to experence the thrill of riding a motorcycle.......
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:01 AM   #9
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I did that for miles on US33 riding the Shenandoah 500 because my bike sucked a valve at the very top of Shenandoah Mountain.
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:07 AM   #10
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The best way to do this is at night... with no headlight.... standing on the pegs.

You can almost feel the darkness moving across your skin. It really does feel like you're flying.
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:44 AM   #11
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Get a bicycle

But seriously doing it at night with lights off is fun
Question is, what's the best way to start engine while still going downhill?

Just push the button?
Pop the clutch out and Bump start?
What about bikes with only kickstart?
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:51 AM   #12
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Answer me this

Why is it, when I'm coasting in neutral with the engine off, when I open the throttle it feels like the bike slows down?

Does it on every bike I've tried it with
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:54 AM   #13
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Get a bicycle

But seriously doing it at night with lights off is fun
Question is, what's the best way to start engine while still going downhill?

Just push the button?
Pop the clutch out and Bump start?
What about bikes with only kickstart?
turn on ignition, shift into a high gear, slowly let out clutch
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:57 AM   #14
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Last summer I coasted over twenty miles from the Grand Mesa visitors center past a speed trap in Mesa to the intersection of 65 and 330. The only reason I stopped there was to wait for my buddy. The bike wasn't running and in neutral of course and I was on the brakes almost the whole way. I got great MPG on that tank. And no the motor or tranny hasn't blown up since. Has anyone tried this coming down from Mt. Charleston near Vegas? I bet you could hit two hundred miles an hour!
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:22 PM   #15
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why bullshit?
Well, mostly because if it's true it completely blows out of the water any argument that the only way you can steer a bike is by countersteering. Not having any irrefutable proof from my own short experience riding, I generally keep my mouth shut when the debate starts to rage. If it's so easy to prove that you can steer a bike by shifting your weight, why do people still point to the "no bullshit" bike or whatever they call that thing with the fixed bars as proof that countersteering is the only way?

Sorry for the hijack. I gotta go find a hill to coast down.
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