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Old 09-28-2012, 06:29 AM   #3541
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Lots of posts on it. I have had the sensor replaced under warranty on both of our 630's. You likely have the fan running all the time now as well. After having both bike plugged into ibeat it showed faulty water temperature sensor.
Or could be one of many other fault codes as all display the same warning light. Take it back to the dealer and have them plug it into iBeat to see what's wrong. Probably they left something disconnected or didn't seat a connector properly while doing your service.

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Old 09-29-2012, 07:30 PM   #3542
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Stock Kickstand- Simple and Easy fix

Here is a simple and easy fix to make the stock kickstand work much better on the TE630.

The aluminium of the kickstand gets worked and deformed slightly from the steel kickstand mount in the bottom of the groove in the kickstand. This causes it to swing much further forward when down causing the bike to lean at much more of an angle than I like and also over time when the kickstand is retracted it the same deformation occurs on the rear end of the groove that causes it to hit the pillion peg mounting structure.

To remedy this I took a .06 inch thick steel strip about 2.5-3 inches long and about .340 inches wide and laid it in the bottom of the kickstand groove.

I put the straight piece of steel in the groove and then lowered the kickstand and put the weigh of the bike on it and bent it down on both front and back so it would hold itself in place.

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Kickstand in up, retracted, position.


I painted it and put a cable tie on it just to keep in snug, safety wire works too.
The bike is much more upright and secure feeling when on the kickstand now. It works great it makes the kickstand stop in what I consider the correct spot both down and up!

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Old 09-30-2012, 05:42 PM   #3543
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Here is a simple and easy fix to make the stock kickstand work much better on the TE630.

The aluminium of the kickstand gets worked and deformed slightly from the steel kickstand mount in the bottom of the groove in the kickstand. This causes it to swing much further forward when down causing the bike to lean at much more of an angle than I like and also over time when the kickstand is retracted it the same deformation occurs on the rear end of the groove that causes it to hit the pillion peg mounting structure.

To remedy this I took a .06 inch thick steel strip about 2.5-3 inches long and about .340 inches wide and laid it in the bottom of the kickstand groove.

I put the straight piece of steel in the groove and then lowered the kickstand and put the weigh of the bike on it and bent it down on both front and back so it would hold itself in place.
That will really help on the street.
I think the foot of the kickstand is still too close to the bike to be stable off road. I just don't understand the dog leg they cast in to the kickstand. I know they did it to clear the passenger pegs, but they should have designed the peg mounts to clear the kickstand, not the other way around.
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Old 09-30-2012, 05:59 PM   #3544
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That will really help on the street.
I think the foot of the kickstand is still too close to the bike to be stable off road. I just don't understand the dog leg they cast in to the kickstand. I know they did it to clear the passenger pegs, but they should have designed the peg mounts to clear the kickstand, not the other way around.
It never gets to the passenger peg mounts when it stops in the correct place when it's new. I noticed that when the bike was new and over time it got higher and higher in the up position until the passenger peg mount became the stop. Now it stops significantly before there.

I'm not sure I follow what you mean by it being too close to the bike when on the dirt? As long as the surface is solid there isn't any difference right? Now the foot of the kickstand actually stops in the level position front to back.
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Old 09-30-2012, 06:39 PM   #3545
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It never gets to the passenger peg mounts when it stops in the correct place when it's new. I noticed that when the bike was new and over time it got higher and higher in the up position until the passenger peg mount became the stop. Now it stops significantly before there.

I'm not sure I follow what you mean by it being too close to the bike when on the dirt? As long as the surface is solid there isn't any difference right? Now the foot of the kickstand actually stops in the level position front to back.
If you look at the kickstand from the rear, it curves in towards the bike. A straight kickstand puts the foot further out, making the bike more stable, particularly if the bike is loaded with camping gear, etc. A bike with it's kickstand down is resting on a triangle consisting of the 2 tires and the kickstand foot. The further out that kickstand foot is from the straight line between the tire contact patches, the more stable it will be.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:17 PM   #3546
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Stopping the stand from swinging so far forward increases the stability on all surfaces because the bike is in a position closer to vertical and more weight is on the wheels like it should be.

If you're saying you want your bike to lean over to the left further then I agree a straighter stand would help because the bikes center of gravity would not be as close to the foot, which defines the vertical line (tipping point) of support in this direction, like the tires define it in the opposite direction. But leaning the bike further to the left puts more weight on the kickstand foot and would cause it to sink into a soft surface more easily.

I returned the kickstand swing so that the foot is flat in the down position, it was swinging so far forward the bike was resting first on the back edge of the kickstand foot and leaning so far over to the left it was putting too much weight on the stand causing it to sink more easily in a soft surface. This mod returns more weight to the tires where it was intended.
A .05 or .04 inch thick steel would allow some adjustment of this angle and depending on how deformed the aluminum stop area of a kickstand is on a given bike.

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Old 10-01-2012, 07:11 AM   #3547
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I made up this little doodad some time ago and has worked out great. No issues with the sidestand other than it swings too low which can make it difficult to get up or down on uneven ground or when sitting on the bike.

With side bags and a full load I dismount the bike with the stand down, swing up and over.

I think grade-8 or equivalant is a good idea on the footpeg bolts, although the extra brittleness may end up not being an advantage. A few have broken out there. I'm well under 200lbs so haven't worried any more about it.


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Old 10-02-2012, 05:17 AM   #3548
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That's nice work Browneye!

I started by making just a stop for the down position but then I realized the kickstand was stopping way higher in the up position than it was designed too, if fact it was hitting and rubbing the passenger peg mounts. So I just extended the steel strip through and bent it over. It was too simple
I don't think you have the passenger peg mounts on your bike anymore if I remember" so this may not be an issue for you but if it continues to deform on the back side of the groove you might consider it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:17 AM   #3549
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That's nice work Browneye!

I started by making just a stop for the down position but then I realized the kickstand was stopping way higher in the up position than it was designed too, if fact it was hitting and rubbing the passenger peg mounts. So I just extended the steel strip through and bent it over. It was too simple
I don't think you have the passenger peg mounts on your bike anymore if I remember" so this may not be an issue for you but if it continues to deform on the back side of the groove you might consider it.
It used to clear the passenger peg bracket but that got bent in on a crash and now it hits. Bent the subframe mounting bolt at the front, pretty good too. I was going to put a grade-8 in there and then thought better of it. But yeah, I keep the passenger pegs in the remote case I need to extract someone from the backcountry with a broken bike.

Right now I just let it rest on the peg bracket, scratch the hell out of everything. Maybe I'll ziptie some innertube on there.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:01 AM   #3550
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If you really want a solid and reliable kickstand for your TE630, check out

http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/cus...s-ready.23282/

He's built an excellent response to the funky and unreliable stock kickstand. Not in it for a profit, but made several for the members on CafeHusky. From what I understand, he still has a few left for both the 610 and the 630. Huge improvement over stock. I don't think he'll be making anymore, so once their gone, their gone.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:45 AM   #3551
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I think that would be a great $100 tire. For $142 I'm not sure. It is full size, it's the big brother to the T63, same pattern, not sure about the compound. I'm guessing it's a 1500 mile tire as well. Performance should be fine.
So I ended up getting a new Michelin Desert rear tire for just under $100. Will not be able to put it to use until spring unless I get an option to ride in TX this winter. My last Michelin FIM Enduro rear tire lasted all of 600 miles, dirt use only. Only 400 of those miles were use that had enough knob for any type of performance beyond casual acceleration.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:56 AM   #3552
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So I ended up getting a new Michelin Desert rear tire for just under $100. Will not be able to put it to use until spring unless I get an option to ride in TX this winter. My last Michelin FIM Enduro rear tire lasted all of 600 miles, dirt use only. Only 400 of those miles were use that had enough knob for any type of performance beyond casual acceleration.
Where did you get the Michelin Desert tire for under $100?
That has been the main tire for Dakar racers for a long time and it should do well as a dual sport tire. It was always much more expensive than $100 in the past, that is why they came out with the T63 I believe. It's ok but really too small for a 600cc bike imo. We are talking rear tires right? The lowest I see for a Desert rear is about $184.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:24 PM   #3553
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Just happened upon it on Ebay.. $75 plus shipping ($100 shipped) and it is new. I have received it already. It was a super deal,, lucked out.

Sent you a pm with another I found for $120 shipped.

I've run the MIchelin Desert on the front of my TE510 and TE630 and it was one of the best fronts I've used, plus it lasted much longer than any worth while dirt tire.


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Old 10-26-2012, 07:02 PM   #3554
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Just happened upon it on Ebay.. $75 plus shipping ($100 shipped) and it is new. I have received it already. It was a super deal,, lucked out.

Sent you a pm with another I found for $120 shipped.

I've run the MIchelin Desert on the front of my TE510 and TE630 and it was one of the best fronts I've used, plus it lasted much longer than any worth while dirt tire.


This is the photo on the ebay listing





looks very similar to the t63

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Same tread patterns but Desert is a better quality tyre.

Used a Desert on the front of my XCH and just put one on the berg.
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