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Old 08-04-2013, 10:07 AM   #2701
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Lack of ABS is one of it's most attractive features, next to the engine. A Rochester Quadrajet would have been nice, but impossible, for the same reason it keeps losing power and gaining weight. Thank you EPA.

As for the chain, I don't see it being a problem with a centerstand. But a shaft would be nice too. A properly designed shaft drive that DID NOT have to be constantly taken apart for spline lubes. That kills the attractiveness of a shaft for me. It is completely possible to design a shaft that is lubricated by the gear oil at the rear, and engine oil at the front, just like a car. It would never have to be taken apart. But nobody does it. I know I spend more time maintaining my shaft drive than I would a chain drive. And you think a chain is expensive? Wait till the splines on the final drive get chewed up. About $2000.
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:23 AM   #2702
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Old 08-04-2013, 12:13 PM   #2703
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Didn't you see the price? You get a chain and the Shaft!
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:26 PM   #2704
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Chains on a 600 last plenty long. Chains on a heavy bike with mega-horse power require lots of adjustment and make lots of noise and aren't nearly as smooth. They just make a bike feel clankier. That being said, Motus could only please 50% of people with a chain and 50% with a shaft.

my 1200 multistrada chain lasted 28500 miles and needed infrequent adjustments - so its a bit of a non issue

I wouldn't object to a shaft drive, but a chain isn't a dealbreaker
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:52 PM   #2705
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my 1200 multistrada chain lasted 28500 miles and needed infrequent adjustments - so its a bit of a non issue

I wouldn't object to a shaft drive, but a chain isn't a dealbreaker
It's the old chain vs. shaft debate... Seemingly endless

Yes, they both have advantages to a degree. My take is more one of peace of mind than anything. With a high quality modern chain you can expect very good life. But more importantly to me is that you can inspect the chain drive system as often as you like, and if you're even half way paying attention you will know it needs attention before it puts you on the side of the road. In the unlikely event that you do need one in a hurry, the parts are readily available just about anywhere too. Hell, if you really wanted to, you could carry a whole damn spare set of chain and sprockets in a saddle bag, and replace it all with minimal tools on the side of the road, provided you have a center stand or some way of getting rear wheel off. Try that with a shaft! Preventative maintenance on chain systems is really not all that frequently required and when it is, it's really a pretty simple task.

None of that is really true with a shaft. You often have no indication of impending doom until it's too late. You really can't inspect the system for wear very easily, if at all, without a detailed tear-down of the rear of the bike. When one goes, good luck on finding the parts and getting it repaired quickly. And that's not even mentioning the COST of said repair if needed. Same goes for any preventative maintenance. Not a simple task for the DIY sort, and not cheap to have done either.

I've never had an issue with a chain on any of my motorcycles. I check them occasionally, clean and lube them sporadically, and replace them when I feel it's time. On my GS though, I must say that even though I've never had a problem (KNOCK WOOD!!!) it's never far from my mind that they have been known to have catastrophic failures at the worst possible time.

So for me, at this point in time, it's worth the slight increase in hassle on occasion to have peace of mind 100% of the time. I always know what my chain's doing. Not so with my shaft.
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Old 08-04-2013, 05:05 PM   #2706
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The chain on my XV920 RH Yamaha has been swiming in it's enclosed grease bath for 35,000 miles, since 1981.
Enclosed chain drive, it's the schinizzle.
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Old 08-04-2013, 06:09 PM   #2707
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Hmm.......Guess I better convert my car to chain final drive before something breaks.
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Old 08-04-2013, 06:32 PM   #2708
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I wonder how long before you might be able find sprockets and where.
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Old 08-04-2013, 06:42 PM   #2709
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I wonder how long before you might be able find sprockets and where.
Well, with a completely new manufacturer and bike, that could present an issue. Most likely in this case, it may be Motus dealer specific since there aren't likely to be enough of them around for any of the aftermarket manufacturers to bother with making them.. That is, of course, unless Motus didn't reinvent the wheel, and instead used an off the shelf bolt pattern from some other existing bike. If that's the case, and you can find out what other bikes share the sprockets, it'll be an easy matter to get sprocket just about anywhere. Hopefully, they were smart enough to use sprockets from another model, if for no other reason than to save themselves the expense of producing one off items for production.
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:46 PM   #2710
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I do like a shaft drive, mostly b/c the slack doesn't change. I hate with my chain is a little loose, but not really loose enough to bother tightening. Also, the chain seems to pick up a lot of road gunk, and cleaning chains kinda sucks, so I don't do it. Shafts just feel consistent to me, and I like that.

I can see why they went with a chain though. A chain is the most efficient (from what I understand) way to transmit power to the rear wheel. It's cheap, effective, and easy. Regearing is no issue, mx is a breeze and it's proven. New parts are available at every store, and quality product lasts. But again, the biggest point is the power delivery, and these guys are really goin' for performance here, iirc.
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Old 08-05-2013, 04:14 AM   #2711
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I wonder how long before you might be able find sprockets and where.

I dont know for sure of course. But I would be shocked if MOTUS is not using a standard sprocket. It would be silly to custom design a sprocket.
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:11 AM   #2712
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I do like a shaft drive, mostly b/c the slack doesn't change. I hate with my chain is a little loose, but not really loose enough to bother tightening. Also, the chain seems to pick up a lot of road gunk, and cleaning chains kinda sucks, so I don't do it. Shafts just feel consistent to me, and I like that.

I can see why they went with a chain though. A chain is the most efficient (from what I understand) way to transmit power to the rear wheel. It's cheap, effective, and easy. Regearing is no issue, mx is a breeze and it's proven. New parts are available at every store, and quality product lasts. But again, the biggest point is the power delivery, and these guys are really goin' for performance here, iirc.
Belt drive is more efficient than chain drive.
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:12 AM   #2713
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I dont know for sure of course. But I would be shocked if MOTUS is not using a standard sprocket. It would be silly to custom design a sprocket.
Possibly , but unfortunately , probably not. They'd rather sell you their sprockets.
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:22 AM   #2714
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A Rochester Quadrajet would have been nice, but impossible, for the same reason it keeps losing power and gaining weight. Thank you EPA.
Please tell me that is sarcasm?
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:03 AM   #2715
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Please tell me that is sarcasm?
Anyone who would seriously long for the days of a Quadrajunk carb is demented.
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