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Old 03-16-2012, 08:41 PM   #976
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I wonder how that's working out for Fisker and Tesla.
They seem to be doing quite well but since their cars are electric, they also have a very unique product. Fisker Karma is also absolutely gorgeous to look at, and it does not reuse components from other cars on the market - not in the obvious way at any rate.

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To clear up something, the pipes will not be Two Brothers, they will be Akro.
On the base model? It seems to be Two Bros in the pictures published so far...
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:43 PM   #977
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The base bike has a Progressive Suspension rear damper???
Sorry dudes, the more i read & look at it... Kinda reminds me of a British Bitsa.

Out here OCC & West Coast Choppers are a done deal. Hope Confederate lasts.

Look up the EBR 1190RS. For $40k, 165hp/97t, 385# wet w/o fuel.
No Progressive Suspension damper.
He has three other models in the pipe line.
The cooling system is set-up to support 230hp as per Eric on a utube vid.

Believe me I hope Motus turns the trick. Givi bags? Had those on a G5 Guzzi.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:45 PM   #978
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They seem to be doing quite well but since their cars are electric, they also have a very unique product. Fisker Karma is also absolutely gorgeous to look at, and it does not reuse components from other cars on the market - not in the obvious way at any rate.


On the base model? It seems to be Two Bros in the pictures published so far...
I spoke with Lee Conn. The bike in the picture has Two Bros. The production bike will have Akro.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:45 PM   #979
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I gotta say I am dissapointed- I think they missed the mark- I see this in watches all the time but usually it doesnt happen that an unproven company comes in with an insane price and then goes down- lets be seriosu its too damned much money and in this economy?? am I wrong to think it resembles a ninja?
Yup, looks just like every V4 Ninja I've ever seen.

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Old 03-16-2012, 08:54 PM   #980
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I think they missed the mark
What mark? A mark a bunch of you fatheads on this forum set that was completely of your imagination? Were you all in here crying when EBR released their bike last year too? How could you have even known, or expected, a price?
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:56 PM   #981
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What is most awesome about this bike, is that it doesn't need any mods, the thing looks perfect as it is.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:09 PM   #982
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What is most awesome about this bike, is that it doesn't need any mods, the thing looks perfect as it is.
First Mod: Everyone buying the base version will be looking to uncork it and get the full power of the MST, another 20 hp And if it has a catalytic, they'll be looking for a "race" exhaust, and then a Power Commander to dial in the FI... Deep pockets are always looking to spend and tinker.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:10 PM   #983
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What mark? A mark a bunch of you fatheads on this forum set that was completely of your imagination? Were you all in here crying when EBR released their bike last year too? How could you have even known, or expected, a price?
EBR is so much more than Motus. Much more than another $5k IM(stupid)O.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:28 AM   #984
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What mark? A mark a bunch of you fatheads on this forum set that was completely of your imagination? Were you all in here crying when EBR released their bike last year too? How could you have even known, or expected, a price?
too lazy to search, but they did say it will be high, but still not astronomical and affordable by "most riders" so that mark
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:45 AM   #985
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http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews...tegoryId=48447

Sorry, can't make link work. Looks like $31K to start.
Go to home page and look under Industry News column.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:54 AM   #986
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My unsolicited retrospective business advice for motus- make one bike, the R model, make it as good as you can and bring it to market at 29,990

Bring in the lower spec model a little later at a cheaper price for those on the fence.

At these prices, with the current competition, they will be a very boutique motorcycle for the very few. The bikes will be kept with a stable of other high end bikes and ridden occasionally but not enough to gain any recognition outside of motorcycle geek circles. Maybe that's the business plan. It's a solid effort and I wish them well, but I will probably look elsewhere.

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Old 03-17-2012, 07:02 AM   #987
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too lazy to search, but they did say it will be high, but still not astronomical and affordable by "most riders" so that mark
which begs the question, what is the demographic for this bike? Is that mentioned anywhere in their press release?

I see rich white guys dropping $40K on a Harley CVO and gain instant badass status as the top tier owner in his local HOG chapter. Everyone will be ooing and aaahing over the custom paint job and all the chrome bits... Owner feels he got his money's worth...

Rich guy spends $37K on the Motus MST, the name does not ring a bell with his peers..... it will sell to those who see it, like it, want it, money is no object. But without brand name recognition, the bike does not give the owner any perceived status symbol. I think part of the equation of buying a luxury brand is that you think you're getting a vehicle that's a cut above the rest, but also you're letting others know about your perceived higher status.

Anyway, it's too bad that for gearheads like us, this bike's out of our reach or can't justify spending that much for the unquantifiable lure of this bike; its engine.
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:10 AM   #988
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Gb.....

...You summed it all up right there.
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:11 AM   #989
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:52 AM   #990
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If you guys in the States were paying in proportion to your currency exchange rates, Harleys would look dirt cheap and the Motus would cost about as much as a BMW K1600.

If they were importing these to the land of Oz, where we add 10 per cent on top in sales tax, the prices would still look pretty good.

About $5k more than a Multistrada 1200S for the base model, and about the same as a K16GTL for the "R".

Same applies, roughly, in Europe.

Over time, if your dollar stays where it is, prices of all your imported stuff will rise to similar levels.

Sorry to be a bearer of bad news. The good news is, it's great for your local builders.

And even at the prices we pay here in Oz, they're selling quite a few Multis and big Beemers.

Point being, it is not really about what you can pay, more about what you can get away with paying for the other stuff.

I suspect the market will come to Motus. I'll bet that's what they're banking on, anyway.

Meantime, even without direct injection, the product looks pretty good.

A few things they hadn't tipped earlier:

An Ohlins fork on the base model. Well, if the Motorcycle Daily story is accurate. (Who cares about the shock - an easy upgrade, and you'd likely have to custom-spring a stock Ohlins unit anyway.)

Extra power for the "R" - 20 more reasons why it's better than a bloated BMW barge.

Akra mufflers - a high-cost option on the Beemer, IIRC.

Forged wheels on the "R".

And who knows what the "race quality" Ohlins fork will be - hard to see how a track fork would work on a tourer.

Provided it's still got decent range, it's still very attractive to a certain customer.

Who doesn't need to be rich - just enthusiastic.
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