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Old 09-25-2009, 06:16 AM   #1
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F800GS review after 1600 mile/6 day trip

I just got back from a 6 day ride and thought I would discuss some of the issues mentioned on this forum and the F800Riders forum and give a short review of the F800GS

The Trip –

Three friends and I took a 6 day ride to Northern Arkansas. One from Katy, Texas on a Triumph Thunderbird Sport, one from Lake Jackson, Texas on a Harley Davidson Ultra Classic, One from Dallas on a BMW GSA and me, from Houston on the F800GS. This was an all paved road trip.

Daily Mileage -

Saturday - 330.0

Sunday - 301.2

Monday - 166.6

Tuesday - 192.7

Wednesday - 351.9

Thursday - 228.2

Total - 1570.6

Daily Average - 261.8

The issues –

1. Wind Screen – I have the stock wind screen and it seems to fit me perfectly. My head is in clean air and I have no head buffeting at all. I doubt I will replace the Screen.

2. Engine Heat – The temps ranged from lows at night in the high 50’s to highs during the day in the Mid to upper 80’s with most of the riding days ranging from the mid 60’s to the high 70’s. I never had a problem with engine heat and honestly never even noticed any excessive heat – from anywhere – at all – all weekend.

3. Headlight bolt vibrating loose – Did not happen. I have one of the wire headlight guards that uses the same mounting points as the headlight with longer bolts and that may have done the trick but my headlight bolts were never loose.

4. Vibration problems – non existent. Never had any hand numbness or any other vibration problems. I like to keep the bike in the power band and tried to stay in a gear so my rpm’s were always at 4000 or above. No noticeable vibration in the pegs, seat or handlebars. Once on the freeway I pushed it to 111 mph (per gps) and it seemed a bit buzzy above 100 and when in the twisties above 6500 rpm’s it would also get buzzy but that was about it.

5. Running Hot – Coolant leak. - None

6. Gasoline Splash back when filling – Never happened. I would stick the nozzle all the way in and pump until auto pump shut off, then pull the nozzle out and finish filling and never once had any problems with splash back.

7. Stalling in the rain – I did the Charcoal Canister drain hose mod before leaving because I expected to get some rain. We hit some light rain for a short time on a couple of days but nothing that would cause problems. On the last day it was raining when we left the hotel and the rain ranged from light to very heavy over the next 175 miles. We stopped at 50 miles from the hotel to get gas. The bike sat under the station awning for about 15-20 minutes after filling and before getting back on the road. We pulled out and it started a heavy rain almost immediately. The bike hesitated a couple of times and I pulled in the clutch and it died. I released the clutch and it restarted but still hesitated and skipped. I thought “oh crap” and down shifted and kept the bike in the 5000 rpm range, I noticed a couple of more hesitations but keeping the bike in the high rpm range seemed to shove enough gasoline thru the injectors to keep it running ok.

About 30 miles down the road we needed to stop to turn onto another route and I was worried. I came to a stop and the bike idled just fine. Another 100 miles of moderate to heavy rain and never another hesitation. The bike ran great the rest of the day. I really have no idea what caused the little bit of hesitation.

I had none of the other problems with wheel bearings, clutch, chain, computer or anything else.

Basically, except for that one burp after filling the bike during the rain storm, it ran flawlessly all weekend and it did great at everything.

The ride and review.

I had the suspension set at the mid point for both pre-load and damping and it rode and handled great on all road conditions and all riding conditions.

On the way up the others complained about the ripples and bumps on some of the roads and how bad the surface was and I had never noticed them. The bike’s suspension soaked up everything and I rode in comfort oblivious the bumps and ripples.

The gas mileage was great for me. I see these guys getting 60-65 mpg and it does not happen for me. I have a very active throttle hand and my running average is usually around 43-45 mpg.

In the mountains riding the back roads at 50-65 mph in the cool mountain air I was getting 58-60 mpg (ok not real mountains for you guys in the Rockies and the Alps – we are talking 2500-3500 feet, but mountains for us guys who live at 50’ above sea level and whose highest elevation is a freeway interchange).

We spent half of one day on the way up, two days there and half of one day on the way back riding riding curvy twisty fun roads. After one full tank in pretty much constant tight twisties where the bike stayed between 3rd and 4th with an occasional foray into 2nd with me constantly rolling on and rolling off the throttle and staying in the 4000-6000 rpm range the bike got 56 mpg. I was impressed.

I got an overall average mpg for the trip of 51 mpg and this is unheard of for me.

The bike handled great in the twisties. Tight turns or sweepers made no difference. The bike held tight with no drifting and no squirrelly handling regardless of road surface.

I am not an extremely aggressive rider but I am not a wimp either. For example, on a right hand curve marked 35mph I will generally go in around 45 and come out the other side around 60 with medium to hard acceleration entirely thru the curve. I like to enter the curve with this bike at around 4000 rpm’s so I have good throttle response thru the curve. (I am a bit more wimpy on left turning curves – I know it is the same physics and I should be able to handle both equally well, but my brain just will not allow it to happen.)

The bike handled all excellently and when I encountered the occasional decreasing radius curve that I was just a bit too hot to handle I could back off the throttle or even drag the rear brake slightly with no loss of control. The bike just did great and I thoroughly enjoyed riding it the entire trip.

Finally, the stock seat is pure torture. I have an Alaskan Leather sheep skin seat pad which is the only thing that got me thru the longer days and even then by the afternoon I had to stop every 45-60 minutes.

I took the pad off one day thinking maybe the seat without the pad may be better. Wow, that was a mistake I did not make again.

Before another trip I will get a new seat. I am leaning towards either the Corbin or the Rick Meyer. I emailed Rick and he has some stock seat pans that he can use but you have to give him a $500 deposit which you get back when you send him your seat pan.

So it is $419-$50 (DS discount) = $369 plus that $500 deposit for the Rick Meyer or $439 for the Corbin.

I have had 5 Corbin seats. Loved 3 of them, hated one of them and thought the 5th was not a sufficient improvement over stock to be worth the money. I have had 1 Rick Meyer and loved it. I am still torn on which way to go.

I know ergonomics is a personal thing, but this bike fits me. The riding position is perfect. The foot peg location is ideal. I have rox risers with the handle bars pulled back and down and am very comfortable with no arm or back fatigue at all.

I have nothing but great things to say about the bike (except for that stock seat) and am extremely happy with my purchase.

I will make a post in the next few days with photos in the Ride Reports section.

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Old 09-25-2009, 07:16 AM   #2
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I did the Charcoal Canister drain hose mod
What does this mod consist in doing?
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Old 09-25-2009, 07:37 AM   #3
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What does this mod consist in doing?
Cut the canister drain hose just below the canister, put in a T connector and add a second hose running up under the seat. This allows the canister to suck air thru the second hose and drain thru the original.
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Old 09-25-2009, 07:46 AM   #4
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Cut the canister drain hose just below the canister, put in a T connector and add a second hose running up under the seat. This allows the canister to suck air thru the second hose and drain thru the original.
OR do this. http://f800riders.org/forum/showthread.php?t=29320 Very easy

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Old 09-25-2009, 08:46 AM   #5
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+1 Get rid of it.

After one hell ride trying to get home in a tropical downpour for 3 hours and dealing with the stalling every time I pulled in the clutch, I yanked my canister.
The bike has not stalled or even hesitated since. I rode through similar rain recently with no problems.

Also, consider the Touratech touring seat. I got the high version and I love it. I did a trip recently on the TAT riding 12 hour days for 14 days in a row. It is a huge improvement over the stock, and it looks great. Worth the extra money to me.
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Old 09-25-2009, 03:17 PM   #6
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I think I'd like better to do the mod than removing the whole thing
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Old 09-25-2009, 03:49 PM   #7
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I think I'd like better to do the mod than removing the whole thing

Yeah, except it doesn't seem to work.
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Old 09-25-2009, 04:06 PM   #8
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I think I'd like better to do the mod than removing the whole thing
Aaaand if we that live in Kalifornia remove it, the enviro police will line us up and shoot sooner or later. I'd like to see a good way to disable while leaving in place to hook back up when the politburo decides to begin inspecting bikes too.
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Old 09-25-2009, 05:14 PM   #9
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Yeah, except it doesn't seem to work.
Mine did fine thru 150 miles of rain, moderate to heavy except for that one hesitation right after fillup and I am guessing that was due to getting a few drops of water in the tank when I filled it up and had nothing to do with the charcoal cannister drain.
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:29 PM   #10
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Please update asap on seat situation. Have used sheepskin to get a little more mileage out of the stock seat, still was almost DOA after about 400 mi. Tried my brother in laws AirHawk this week. Was better for the "Hotspots" but I don't like the rolling feel I get with it.
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Old 09-26-2009, 01:36 PM   #11
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Please update asap on seat situation. Have used sheepskin to get a little more mileage out of the stock seat, still was almost DOA after about 400 mi. Tried my brother in laws AirHawk this week. Was better for the "Hotspots" but I don't like the rolling feel I get with it.

Read my post (#5) above.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:03 PM   #12
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Please update asap on seat situation. Have used sheepskin to get a little more mileage out of the stock seat, still was almost DOA after about 400 mi. Tried my brother in laws AirHawk this week. Was better for the "Hotspots" but I don't like the rolling feel I get with it.
I love my Corbin. I've heard good things about Mayer seats (either brother), and Renazco as well. Sargent's looks OK, too.
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:52 AM   #13
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One of my buddies has both the Sargent and the Corbin. He likes the Corbin better for comfort (maybe a 9 for the Corbin on the comfort scale and a 7.5 for the Sargent - stock seat comes in at -62), but the Corbin also makes the bike a bit wider and harder to touch the ground for the vertically challenged.

I have the Sargent and like it (but don't "love" it) I have not had a chance to try his Corbin - every time I see him he has the Sargent on the bike. He only uses the Corbin for long distance slabing....

This winter I may take Sargent up on their $70 modification offer and get an inch of foam added to mine that is a bit softer than their "stock" foam. I am tall enough to deal with the extra height and I think it will be fine....
In the mean time this $20 Wally-world cushion that I read about here on one of the threads is very nice for longer trips:

http://www.roadmasterusa.com/category.php?c=relaxation
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Old 09-29-2009, 01:37 PM   #14
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I think I'd like better to do the mod than removing the whole thing
+1 I wasn't having any stalling problems in the first place, however, I decided to remove the canister for good measure. Turns out removing it didn't effect a damn thing! From then on, I felt guilty with it off due to the fact that I was polluting more for no reason, given it didn't fix anything to remove it. So I put it back on, and simply re-routed the drain hose a bit. I've never had any problems with stalling.

My belief is that the stalling issue is due to the drain hose and the way it is routed, not the canister itself. No sense in just removing it for no reason.

My experience is that canister system works just fine as long as you keep the drain hose clear and unclogged.
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:19 PM   #15
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