Rockies regional randomness - Page 232

TheMuffinMan · 12-06-2010, 12:55 PM

Depends on the cathode they're using and I can't find any information out about that from their website. LiFePO4 cathodes fix some of the longevity issues, but the vibration and shock still isn't good for any lithium cell(s). They are all susceptible to thermal runaway in the right conditions, overheated, charging current too high, and hate being deep-discharged (though built-in circuitry should prevent the batteries from shorting out from deep-discharge). A failure in the circuitry can cause issues as well (anyone remember the exploding Dell/Sony laptops a few years back?).

There's just a lot of extraneous conditions to Li-ions; some can be engineered out to a degree but others are just innate to the battery type. However I'm not an engineer or scientist so they might've come up with a new fangled way to engineer-out or minimize these issues for motorcycle application. No way to know with the information on their website though.

SnowMule · 12-06-2010, 12:58 PM

"ebatt" is kinda the same thing. Sounds like they'd work okay, but yea... different chemistry than Pb-Acid means they behave differently. Especially when it comes to charging... Li-* batteries need brains behind a charger... can't just throw current at it and expect it to charge without exploding.

One way to overcome the current draw limitations is to string a bunch of 'em together or use a large capacitor.

Geek · 12-06-2010, 04:10 PM

You can stream/watch the latest episode of TopGear USA completely legally and free at this link:

http://www.history.com/shows/top-gea...-coupe-deville

cojoel · 12-06-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Geek

You can stream/watch the latest episode of TopGear USA completely legally and free at this link:

http://www.history.com/shows/top-gea...-coupe-deville

Yea, but they copied the British version to little too much. I have seen two episodes and it was just like watching the British episodes with out the funny accents.

Brian-M · 12-06-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cojoel

Yea, but they copied the British version to little too much. I have seen two episodes and it was just like watching the British episodes with out the funny accents.

It's all about the chemistry.... I like that they copied the production (very good on the US version, Excellent on the UK version, so-so on the Aus version), it's still to be seen how well these 3 get along. The basic formula is proven, it works ~ why screw with it?

I thoroughly enjoyed the blind drifter section, haven't seen the 3rd episode yet (no torrent surprisingly, I didn't know you could watch it on the actual channels homepage)

doc_ricketts · 12-06-2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cojoel

Yea, but they copied the British version to little too much. I have seen two episodes and it was just like watching the British episodes with out the funny accents.

I jumped through it after watching about five minutes. Not nearly like the Brit show, which is largely built upon the characters and their love of quirky cars (and expensive ones).

Blakebird · 12-06-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by doc_ricketts

I jumped through it after watching about five minutes. Not nearly like the Brit show, which is largely built upon the characters and their love of quirky cars (and expensive ones).

Copying a popular format won't do a thing without chemistry, I didn't feel any.

When I was working in Australia I watched Kath & Kim, it was a riot (and on after Jason Lee's 'My name is Earl'). The Kath & Kim they tried on U.S. tv was ok occasionally, but nothing close to the hilarious original.

MeterPig · 12-06-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Geek

You can stream/watch the latest episode of TopGear USA completely legally and free at this link:

http://www.history.com/shows/top-gea...-coupe-deville

There are things the brits just do better.

justjarrod · 12-07-2010, 04:12 AM

Mad skills!

TheDudeAbides · 12-07-2010, 07:59 AM

Dec 7th, 1941

Never forgotten

Gummee! · 12-07-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by doc_ricketts

You are prospecting for gold there, my friend. If I had a loose one laying around I would stick it in the front of a class c motor home and have my dream ride. Good luck and pray tell, what are you going to use the cummins for?

There's some 'Stroke motors in the Utard barter thread if you don't HAVE to have the Cummins

HTH

M

Gummee! · 12-07-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides

Dec 7th, 1941

Never forgotten

Yeah, cause its Mom's birfday!

Happy birfday Mom.

(Dad's was yesterday. 3 years ago on the 5th we buried him

)

M

doc_ricketts · 12-07-2010, 03:25 PM

Dec. 7, 1941. Watched the History Channel show again about the attack. The guy who ran the .50 cal at Hickum all during the attack was a neat guy. In the interview he relived and relished having all that ammo carried to him and how he never realized until he stepped away that he had numerous shrapnel wounds.

NoBull · 12-08-2010, 04:59 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izzlN2zC8PU

KLXplode · 12-08-2010, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBull

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izzlN2zC8PU

Seen it a ton of times......

Still cracks me up

12-06-2010, 12:55 PM	#3466
TheMuffinMan Beastly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2010 Location: Denver, USA Oddometer: 3,720	Depends on the cathode they're using and I can't find any information out about that from their website. LiFePO4 cathodes fix some of the longevity issues, but the vibration and shock still isn't good for any lithium cell(s). They are all susceptible to thermal runaway in the right conditions, overheated, charging current too high, and hate being deep-discharged (though built-in circuitry should prevent the batteries from shorting out from deep-discharge). A failure in the circuitry can cause issues as well (anyone remember the exploding Dell/Sony laptops a few years back?). There's just a lot of extraneous conditions to Li-ions; some can be engineered out to a degree but others are just innate to the battery type. However I'm not an engineer or scientist so they might've come up with a new fangled way to engineer-out or minimize these issues for motorcycle application. No way to know with the information on their website though. __________________ "Civilize the mind, but make savage the body." To the house of a friend the way is never long. "Show respect to all, but grovel to none." '12 690 Enduro // 690 Wiki TheMuffinMan screwed with this post 12-06-2010 at 01:15 PM

12-06-2010, 12:58 PM	#3467
SnowMule nope.gif Joined: Jul 2009 Location: I LIVE IN A GIANT BUCKET Oddometer: 16,049	"ebatt" is kinda the same thing. Sounds like they'd work okay, but yea... different chemistry than Pb-Acid means they behave differently. Especially when it comes to charging... Li-* batteries need brains behind a charger... can't just throw current at it and expect it to charge without exploding. One way to overcome the current draw limitations is to string a bunch of 'em together or use a large capacitor. __________________ Spewer of the poignant non sequitur

12-06-2010, 04:10 PM	#3468
Geek ^OP oot & aboot Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Colorado Oddometer: 25,816	You can stream/watch the latest episode of TopGear USA completely legally and free at this link: http://www.history.com/shows/top-gea...-coupe-deville __________________ www.motogeek.com

12-07-2010, 04:12 AM	#3474
justjarrod sojourner Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Colorado Oddometer: 1,131	Mad skills! __________________ "Any society that would give up a little liberty for a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -B. Franklin

12-07-2010, 07:59 AM	#3475
TheDudeAbides Sarcasm free11/11/10 Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Loveland, Colo Oddometer: 7,432	Dec 7th, 1941 Never forgotten __________________ Best dualsport mirrors I've ever owned 2001 BMW F650 GS Dakar (Stolen!) 2004 DRZE

12-07-2010, 03:25 PM	#3478
doc_ricketts Thumper jockey Joined: Jul 2007 Location: FlaWaCo? Oddometer: 4,021	Dec. 7, 1941. Watched the History Channel show again about the attack. The guy who ran the .50 cal at Hickum all during the attack was a neat guy. In the interview he relived and relished having all that ammo carried to him and how he never realized until he stepped away that he had numerous shrapnel wounds. __________________ "Get yourself to the hills and be uplifted, assuming you got some good knobbies"

12-08-2010, 04:59 AM	#3479
NoBull Lovin my new KLR Joined: May 2008 Location: Golden,Colorado Oddometer: 256	This is great http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izzlN2zC8PU __________________ The letters "MC" are stamped on your driver's license right next to your sex and height as if "motorcycle" was just another of your physical characteristics, or maybe a mental condition. http://spotwalla.com/tripViewer.php?id=1af24c443ce447f90

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