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Old 10-22-2009, 06:53 AM   #1
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Excel rim on LC4 Adv front wheel

Just a quick question to you guys.
I have recently bent the front rim ( 4 x places ) on my LC4 Adventure 2005 / twin disc, during a 2 x day rally here in UK.
I'm looking to fit a stronger Excel 1.85" rim to a standard hub.
Will the straight swap be possible and if yes, what spokes shoud I use: OEM or ask local wheel builders to fabricate some to size?
I'd like to do it myself but if this job involves any custom mods I'll stick to new Behr one and pray not to damage it
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:06 AM   #2
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Do not get another Behr rim, as you might have noticed they are shit quality.

I would stick with a 1.6" rim, if you can afford it the Excel A60 is probably the strongest one around. Get some thicker spokes at the same time, Woody used some beefy 8 gauge ones on the one I have, really nice.

Talon is in the UK and should be able to sort you out with the correctly bent spokes and drilled rim package.

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Old 10-22-2009, 07:47 AM   #3
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Do not get another Behr rim, as you might have noticed they are shit quality.

I would stick with a 1.6" rim, if you can afford it the Excel A60 is probably the strongest one around. Get some thicker spokes at the same time, Woody used some beefy 8 gauge ones on the one I have, really nice.

Talon is in the UK and should be able to sort you out with the correctly bent spokes and drilled rim package.
Thanks LukasM
I've just e-mailed Talon, now waiting for response
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:11 AM   #4
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Hi Paul,

how are you doing? I have a '03 640 Asdventure at the moment and it came with an excel rim on the front.

In the history that came with the bike it says that it was replaced under warranty, perhaps the orignal owner specced an excel as the replacement ?

It states on the rim 'Takasago J21X160 DOT 481 JAPAN 205' hope that helps you.

cheers, Bob.
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:28 AM   #5
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Older models have narrow DID and Excel rims as stock...

I think -01
-03 came stock with 1,6X21" EXCEL AL7 front rim.
Rear is also narrow, 2,50X18" DID.

2000 and older, DID on both ends.
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:45 AM   #6
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I don't think Excel rims were ever stock on the Adventure - at least for long. There was a recall on some of the pre 03 models with the DID rims, and if you were lucky they were replaced with an Excel. On mine and several bikes of my friends the dealer just put some clips on the spokes to hold them together.

The 1.6" recommendation is for bikes which are frequently ridden off road (even the big twin KTMs), which seems to apply to you. It's narrower and therefore stronger than 1.85".

For road use the 1.85" doesn't squeeze the profile as much and is a bit nicer.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:47 AM   #7
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Thanks again guys ( Bob, doing fine and you? )
I think I'll stick to 1.85 as my bike is used on tarmac as well, at least once a year to travel across Eastern Europe.
I hope that Talon UK guys will be able to help, I can't wait to hear from them to be honest.
Once I'm sorted with the wheel, the bike goes for suspension revalve / setup.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:59 PM   #8
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I don't think Excel rims were ever stock on the Adventure - at least for long. There was a recall on some of the pre 03 models with the DID rims, and if you were lucky they were replaced with an Excel. On mine and several bikes of my friends the dealer just put some clips on the spokes to hold them together.
2000-2003 Adventures were subject to a Federally mandated recall and received complete front wheels assemblies that included an Excel wheel. The Enduro model LC4's only got the crappy clip mod...
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:05 PM   #9
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Hi Pole,
I've just ordered an Excel rim for mine from Central wheels. I have the 50p piece shaped rims too! Funnily enough it was last years Cambriam that did the initial damage:









Suprisingly, that didn't cause a problem, and I only noticed it when I washed the bike.
This year though, the damage was enough to split a Michelin desert and actually cut into the rim, giving me a flat tyre 30 seconds into the last test.
I've ordered the 1.85 as well.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:34 PM   #10
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Hi Pole,
I've just ordered an Excel rim for mine from Central wheels. I have the 50p piece shaped rims too! Funnily enough it was last years Cambriam that did the initial damage:

Suprisingly, that didn't cause a problem, and I only noticed it when I washed the bike.
This year though, the damage was enough to split a Michelin desert and actually cut into the rim, giving me a flat tyre 30 seconds into the last test.
I've ordered the 1.85 as well.
Mark
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Hi Mark.
Mine got bent during this year's Cambrian as well but luckily I've managed to get away without flat.
So what's your idea on fitting the rim to OEM hub and spokes if you're planning to do it yourself?
Do you think it will be straightforward fit + trueing?
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:59 PM   #11
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Paul,
From what Central told me, it's a relatively straight forward job, for someone who knows what they are doing. The last wheel I tried to re-spoke was a disaster, so I'm letting them put me a complete wheel together on a Talon hub with HD stainless spokes. They will put a new rim onto your own hub, if you want them to do. They were a little coy about whether they would do it with the original spokes though.
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:51 AM   #12
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I've just got off the phone with Talon.
The news is they can get it done for me, no problem.
One weeks time and I'm back on the road
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:28 AM   #13
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What rim and spokes are you going with? For the peace of mind a bit more for the A60 would probably be worth it.
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:42 AM   #14
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What rim and spokes are you going with? For the peace of mind a bit more for the A60 would probably be worth it.
I've only asked for "Excel rim" in 1.85" size, so probably it won't be A60.
As for the spokes they'll fabricate stainless steel ones, with brass nipples.
The hub stays the OEM.
I'll deliver the wheel in person and then discuss the type/model/colour of the rim there and then.
I suppose I want bit of both worlds off-road / road so I will stick to 1.85" as it's sort of between 1.60 for A60 and 2.15 for Behr.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:17 AM   #15
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Hi guys, let me open this old thread. I'm wondering if there is any way how to reduce the weight of OEM wheels on a '07 640A? It weights tons...

Can I swap it for an EXC wheels? There might be a big weight difference/saving, right?
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