Vintage trials...which of these two?

johnson357 · 11-10-2009, 02:56 PM

Ok, I know opinions are like A__________ everybody has one so I guess I ask for it.....
I have a 75 Yamaha TY175 and a TLR200 which would be a better one to hold onto for trying some twinshock vintage trails next season.....I know the obv....one is a 2stroke and 1 a 4.....but looking for stuff like which ones is going to being easier with out as much drama....because I'm going to have to let one go.
Thanks

Seth S · 11-10-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by johnson357

Ok, I know opinions are like A__________ everybody has one so I guess I ask for it.....
I have a 75 Yamaha TY175 and a TLR200 which would be a better one to hold onto for trying some twinshock vintage trails next season.....I know the obv....one is a 2stroke and 1 a 4.....but looking for stuff like which ones is going to being easier with out as much drama....because I'm going to have to let one go.
Thanks

I thought I was the only one who had an Aardvark. Go figure, you learn something new every day.

johnson357 · 11-10-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth S

I thought I was the only one who had an Aardvark. Go figure, you learn something new every day.

Which one is the Aardvark........hell I wouldn't have been able to spell Aardvark if you hadn't

welder · 11-10-2009, 04:49 PM

Personally I'd go with the ty. Way lighter and better out of the box than a reflex. The reflex can be made to be a decent trials machine but it takes time and money. If you go with the reflex strip it down to the bare essentials get an after market tank and shocks , alloy rims,decent bars, 11 tooth c/s sprocket. That will get you in the ball park.

johnson357 · 11-10-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by welder

Personally I'd go with the ty. Way lighter and better out of the box than a reflex. The reflex can be made to be a decent trials machine but it takes time and money. If you go with the reflex strip it down to the bare essentials get an after market tank and shocks , alloy rims,decent bars, 11 tooth c/s sprocket. That will get you in the ball park.

Welder, thanks thats the kind of info I was looking for....cheaper is better in this case for me since that is the one reason why I am scaling back my Harescramble racing.

FF2903 · 11-10-2009, 10:07 PM

I would agree that the TY would definitely be the better one. There's a reason they called it a "cheater" bike

motu · 11-11-2009, 02:11 AM

Is the TLR200 a TLR200 (alloy rims,bash plate etc) or a Reflex? A Reflex won't cut the mustard.

The TLR200 is better handling...better suspension etc,it's the next generation of Japanese trials bikes - but the TY175 is by far the sweeter ride.

johnson357 · 11-11-2009, 04:08 AM

It the street legel reflex....we got it because the wife is short and she wanted a D.S. type bike but she is not a big fan of the kickstart

......about the TY I bought in a semi restored state......better set of rear shocks (so I was told, still have stockers) but the weird this is the forks are moved up (like 1.5 in) above the top triple clamp....was this the hot set up or just some goon move by the prev. owner.

roadholder · 11-11-2009, 08:57 AM

The TLR is not technically "vintage" depending on what events you are riding, and their eligabilities. If it's strickly "twinshock" rules you should be OK, but the Honda is a newer design...a potential factor.

They are close enough in capability that it will come down to YOU...so all else equal, personal preference matters most!

dmay · 11-11-2009, 09:57 AM

http://www.trialsinc.org/
trials Inc has twinshock class,they have us run the Novice line,Nothing risky,very fun events.All the people I've met are freakin' great,always willing to help and advise.I attended my first at Stoney Lonesome a few months ago and became immeadiately hooked on trials.The events are mostly easy driving distance from indy.

johnson357 · 11-11-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dmay

http://www.trialsinc.org/
trials Inc has twinshock class,they have us run the Novice line,Nothing risky,very fun events.All the people I've met are freakin' great,always willing to help and advise.I attended my first at Stoney Lonesome a few months ago and became immeadiately hooked on trials.The events are mostly easy driving distance from indy.

Cool, thanks I've have cked out there website and very familiar with Stoney since I race all the Harescrambles there.....I think they are a little less restrictive that the true AMA stuff....but anyway decided to keep the TY and but the 200 in the trials flea market and craigslist.....the 200 was kinda more for the wife since she could touch on it, so only fair I find her one with electric start like she wants.

welder · 11-11-2009, 12:11 PM

Try a kawasaki super sherpa for the wife. Not a trials bike but it has the magic button and a low seat height. I don't think anyone make a trials oriented bike with e start.

johnson357 · 11-11-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by welder

Try a kawasaki super sherpa for the wife. Not a trials bike but it has the magic button and a low seat height. I don't think anyone make a trials oriented bike with e start.

She was not in the market for a trials bike...exactly....when we got this....but it was cute and she could touch the ground

.....hey at least I've got her interested just have to get her on the right bike now.

dmay · 11-11-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by roadholder

The TLR is not technically "vintage" depending on what events you are riding, and their eligabilities. If it's strickly "twinshock" rules you should be OK, but the Honda is a newer design...a potential factor.

They are close enough in capability that it will come down to YOU...so all else equal, personal preference matters most!

Trials Inc. is a twinshock,aircooled,drumbrake class,they don't mind my Fantic 240,which has longer travel rear suspension than Ahrma legal bikes,hell,we're glad to have more than one twinshocker at any event.
Personally,I'm gonna try to attend all but the most distant events next year,I'd love to have more bikes to compete against,so bring on that TY175!

(Johnson 357,I'll send you a P.M.)

squish · 11-11-2009, 06:17 PM

The forks are stock in the raised postion on the TY

If you can swing it keep both.

That's what I'm going to do I'm looking for a decent reflex (in SoCal)
To add to my TY175.

Squish

11-10-2009, 02:56 PM	#1
johnson357 ^OP Bad Monkey Racing Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Indpls, IN Oddometer: 827	Vintage trials...which of these two? Ok, I know opinions are like A__________ everybody has one so I guess I ask for it..... I have a 75 Yamaha TY175 and a TLR200 which would be a better one to hold onto for trying some twinshock vintage trails next season.....I know the obv....one is a 2stroke and 1 a 4.....but looking for stuff like which ones is going to being easier with out as much drama....because I'm going to have to let one go. Thanks

11-10-2009, 04:49 PM	#4
welder Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Victoria B.C. Oddometer: 1,320	Personally I'd go with the ty. Way lighter and better out of the box than a reflex. The reflex can be made to be a decent trials machine but it takes time and money. If you go with the reflex strip it down to the bare essentials get an after market tank and shocks , alloy rims,decent bars, 11 tooth c/s sprocket. That will get you in the ball park. __________________ Anything is possible if you don't know what your talking about!

11-11-2009, 09:57 AM	#10
dmay Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Bloomfield,Indiana Oddometer: 199	http://www.trialsinc.org/ trials Inc has twinshock class,they have us run the Novice line,Nothing risky,very fun events.All the people I've met are freakin' great,always willing to help and advise.I attended my first at Stoney Lonesome a few months ago and became immeadiately hooked on trials.The events are mostly easy driving distance from indy. __________________ Doug 2011 Sherco 250 trials,83 Fantic 240 trials,1992 Fantic 309 trials,2009 Kawasaki KLX250s,2001 Super Sherpa

11-11-2009, 12:11 PM	#12
welder Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Victoria B.C. Oddometer: 1,320	Try a kawasaki super sherpa for the wife. Not a trials bike but it has the magic button and a low seat height. I don't think anyone make a trials oriented bike with e start. __________________ Anything is possible if you don't know what your talking about!

11-11-2009, 06:17 PM	#15
squish Out of the office. Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Where the Ghetto meets the sea. Oddometer: 4,942	The forks are stock in the raised postion on the TY If you can swing it keep both. That's what I'm going to do I'm looking for a decent reflex (in SoCal) To add to my TY175. Squish __________________ *On vacation for a spell*

11-10-2009, 10:07 PM	#6
FF2903 n00b Joined: Jul 2009 Location: Olympia, WA Oddometer: 5	I would agree that the TY would definitely be the better one. There's a reason they called it a "cheater" bike

11-11-2009, 02:11 AM	#7
motu Loose Pre Unit Joined: Dec 2001 Location: New Zealand Oddometer: 3,948	Is the TLR200 a TLR200 (alloy rims,bash plate etc) or a Reflex? A Reflex won't cut the mustard. The TLR200 is better handling...better suspension etc,it's the next generation of Japanese trials bikes - but the TY175 is by far the sweeter ride.

11-11-2009, 04:08 AM	#8
johnson357 ^OP Bad Monkey Racing Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Indpls, IN Oddometer: 827	It the street legel reflex....we got it because the wife is short and she wanted a D.S. type bike but she is not a big fan of the kickstart ......about the TY I bought in a semi restored state......better set of rear shocks (so I was told, still have stockers) but the weird this is the forks are moved up (like 1.5 in) above the top triple clamp....was this the hot set up or just some goon move by the prev. owner.

11-11-2009, 08:57 AM	#9
roadholder Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Oddometer: 1,980	The TLR is not technically "vintage" depending on what events you are riding, and their eligabilities. If it's strickly "twinshock" rules you should be OK, but the Honda is a newer design...a potential factor. They are close enough in capability that it will come down to YOU...so all else equal, personal preference matters most!

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