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Old 11-29-2009, 06:42 PM   #61
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I see lowering links from this vendor but not raising links. I've been looking for a vendor of steel raising links for the DL650 for a couple years but haven't found one.

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I think it'd be cheap enough to have a local machine shop make some up for you. Show up with one of your stockers and tell them to make it of the same material, but shorter. I have a set of 1" aluminum raising links I can measure center to center for you if you need.
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:43 PM   #62
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I think it'd be cheap enough to have a local machine shop make some up for you. Show up with one of your stockers and tell them to make it of the same material, but shorter. I have a set of 1" aluminum raising links I can measure center to center for you if you need.
I'd be surprised if any machine shop would do this for less than $150+ on a one-off basis. Not worth it to me for that.

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Old 11-29-2009, 07:05 PM   #63
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I'd be surprised if any machine shop would do this for less than $150+ on a one-off basis. Not worth it to me for that.

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To me, that seems high. I'd imagine that 50-60$ is what I'd pay for that at my local guy. Compared to some of the one off stuff I've had made these things are simple. Hell, you could probably save some money and do the shaping your self with a grinder.
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:07 PM   #64
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To me, that seems high. I'd imagine that 50-60$ is what I'd pay for that at my local guy. Compared to some of the one off stuff I've had made these things are simple. Hell, you could probably save some money and do the shaping your self with a grinder.
Yep,,, jig saw with metal blades, a drill and a grinder.
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:49 PM   #65
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I think it'd be cheap enough to have a local machine shop make some up for you. Show up with one of your stockers and tell them to make it of the same material, but shorter. I have a set of 1" aluminum raising links I can measure center to center for you if you need.

raising links - $34
http://burkhartcycle.com/store/index...&products_id=2

this guy did it. past tense & has some info
http://www.ofb.net/~sethml/motorcycle/vstrom/links/
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:47 AM   #66
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The vendor of steel links does have raising links on Ebay - they are a little hard to find in his store.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=280368971242

I just ordered some and will give them a try. Thanks for pointer....

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Old 12-02-2009, 04:24 PM   #67
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which oil and amount for the rear shock ??

waz up guys !!

just pull out the rear shock out of my vstrom 1000cc 2007, it has 20,000 miles and i ride most of the time 2 up.

the shock need new oil and nitrogen !! how much does oil does the shock needs and what kind do u recommend? i would like it harder ...

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Old 12-02-2009, 07:24 PM   #68
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waz up guys !!

just pull out the rear shock out of my vstrom 1000cc 2007, it has 20,000 miles and i ride most of the time 2 up.

the shock need new oil and nitrogen !! how much does oil does the shock needs and what kind do u recommend? i would like it harder ...

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You want a 450$ sasquatch shock rebuild/full modification.

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Old 12-03-2009, 12:03 AM   #69
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You want a 450$ sasquatch shock rebuild/full modification.

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thanks boon, i was thinking of him, and do email him, but i leave in mexico and is to much hassel and expensive to mail things from here, so a mechanic is doing it for me... but i am afraid he wont know that correct amount and kind of oil.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:35 AM   #70
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:34 PM   #71
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25,000 plus miles aluminum lowering links. Many of those miles pot holed Central American road bottoming both ends. No problems when properly installed and torqued.



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When properly torqued, the hole of the link shouldn't be taking much if any of the loads.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:42 PM   #72
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Leverage doesn't change. The lowering or raising links end at the pivot point of the L link. The L link attaches to the frame and the shock. That determines the leverage on the shock.




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Since leverage changes, wheel travel should change too, IMHO.
If eg shorter links result to an 'effectively' 10% stiffer spring, then that should mean that the wheel travel is now 10% less. Only reason the spring seems stiffer, is because the same spring travel works against a lesser wheel travel.
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Old 12-12-2009, 02:23 PM   #73
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Leverage doesn't change. The lowering or raising links end at the pivot point of the L link. The L link attaches to the frame and the shock. That determines the leverage on the shock.
But as the angle of the dogbone, link and swingarm interface changes, so does the leverage.

Looking at it it would seem like shortening the dog bones would put the interaction of the swing arm and the dog bones closer to perpendicular making the initial movement of the swing arm easier, sort of decreasing spring rate.

It's a complicated piece of geometry to be sure, but I do think changing the link length would change the rising rate aspect of the linkage a little bit. If I had to guess, I'd say shortening the dog bones, and thereby raising the rear would give you a little more suspension travel, and a little leverage on the link. All of it being pretty small changes.
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But as the angle of the dogbone, link and swingarm interface changes, so does the leverage.

Looking at it it would seem like shortening the dog bones would put the interaction of the swing arm and the dog bones closer to perpendicular making the initial movement of the swing arm easier, sort of decreasing spring rate.

It's a complicated piece of geometry to be sure, but I do think changing the link length would change the rising rate aspect of the linkage a little bit. If I had to guess, I'd say shortening the dog bones, and thereby raising the rear would give you a little more suspension travel, and a little leverage on the link. All of it being pretty small changes.
The internal dimensions of the shock determine travel "most" of the time. I do not see how changing a link {with-in reason} can change travel. Change the effective spring rate? Yes,,, travel no. JMO though.
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Old 12-12-2009, 05:56 PM   #75
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Mods you could do for better offroadability:
KTM 950SM forks, or any dirt bike forks if you don't mind a single caliper
Adjust rear linkage to fit a dirt bike rear shock in. Doing this would increase ride height and travel, making it much more offroad capable.
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