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Old 11-21-2009, 10:09 AM   #76
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lurking around in the beasts forum and listening to people argue about which 400+ pound bike is a better dirt bike is sorta like being a voyeur at a chubby chasers swing party. leaves me feeling queasy, but i just... can't... stop... watching...

i own an rxv550 aprilia. got rid of a perfectly functional xr650r and a perfectly perfect ktm200exc to get the thing. i am slower almost everywhere in real dirt on the aprilia, except for maybe those rare times when i'm out in the desert and can just wring the thing open without being afraid for my life. it is too big and too fast for what 90 percent of the dirt riding i do. and it is still gotta be a good 75 or so pounds lighter than any of the bikes being bandied about here.

looking at pictures and videos of dudes roosting either tricked out f800s or se950s around dirt parking lots or "slightly bumpy" ground, or hearing about how they ruled erzberg when they really ruled a very wide, very smooth fire road that some dude from slovakia also ruled on an r1 with knobbies, well, it makes me wonder just what some people think of in terms of "real world dirt bike riding."

maybe i'm spoiled. i can go ride in the sierras and tangle myself up in twisty rocky technical singletrack for days on end. i can head out to the desert and climb really long gnarly hillclimbs or roost down arroyos full of head size rocks or just hold it wide open on a lake bed. so i don't have to pretend that riding a dirt road with a freeway next to it, or a muddy doubletrack with fences every 200 yards, or something that looks like an abandoned gravel loading station is actually worthy of being called "off road riding."

that tricked out f800 looks awesome. i want one. i want a 950 se too. but damned if i'm gonna pretend for a second that they'll be anything but a major scary handful in any kind of real dirt... they're still heavy, overpowered pigs. i guess i always did have a thing for the chubby ones...

I'm w/ you on this one.
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:22 AM   #77
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lurking around in the beasts forum and listening to people argue about which 400+ pound bike is a better dirt bike is sorta like being a voyeur at a chubby chasers swing party. leaves me feeling queasy, but i just... can't... stop... watching...
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:13 PM   #78
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The rider makes the bike...
Never truer words said.
This 800GS is a beautiful bike, and duh, not one for any sort of tight single track...

But, variety is the spice of life!
Do what you like... and opinions are just that.
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:23 PM   #79
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maybe i'm spoiled. i can go ride in the sierras and tangle myself up in twisty rocky technical singletrack for days on end. i can head out to the desert and climb really long gnarly hillclimbs or roost down arroyos full of head size rocks or just hold it wide open on a lake bed. so i don't have to pretend that riding a dirt road with a freeway next to it, or a muddy doubletrack with fences every 200 yards, or something that looks like an abandoned gravel loading station is actually worthy of being called "off road riding."

Well, aren't you just the fucking coolest guy ever.

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Old 11-21-2009, 05:35 PM   #80
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This thread is going own hill quick! Anyone know anything about the fork guards??? Anyone??
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:59 PM   #81
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This thread is going own hill quick! Anyone know anything about the fork guards??? Anyone??

My bad. Sorry, woke up on the wrong side of the bathroom floor.

I would like to get rid of the low front fender as well.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:43 PM   #82
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If you get rid of the low front fender, you will need fork guards. Also be worth it to get rid of that front brake line set up. Go with a 2 seperate lines maybe.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:56 PM   #83
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If you get rid of the low front fender, you will need fork guards. Also be worth it to get rid of that front brake line set up. Go with a 2 seperate lines maybe.
As far as I know, nobody makes a kit yet for the dual disc setup.
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:08 PM   #84
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The bike's performance will only make a difference if you can get 100% of its potential out of it... Until you get there (we probably never will as we will not turn pro) enjoy your ride and focus on improving your skills on what ever bike you like
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:10 PM   #85
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Hey guys, a thread I started a little while ago would love some more discussion of your low-fender ideas and fork guard suggestions!

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=525404

Besides the guards, fender/radiator guard and fork lines, the front fender would have to be extended a tad. A suspicion confirmed by some of Stefano's pictures where they added a duct-tape covered beak extension on a particularly wet course.
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:29 PM   #86
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The bike's performance will only make a difference if you can get 100% of its potential out of it... Until you get there (we probably never will as we will not turn pro) enjoy your ride and focus on improving your skills on what ever bike you like
I dont know what you are referring to. As far as my personal skills, I am just fine tank you.

I dont see a high front fender to be that big of an issue. I am sure we could figure it out with a custom made bracket and a donor fender or something similar. A good radiator guard for extra insurance. I probably wont worry about extending the front fender out, but that is just me.

As far as the lines go, you dont need a kit. You get custom made lines from many sources, and they are pretty cheap. You can either "T" it or get a banjo bolt for 2 lines and route them both from the lever.
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:37 PM   #87
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here is a relatively stock 950 ADV...
turning an 800GS into a race bike is a waste of time and money when you can just buy the KTM.
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:52 PM   #88
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Once KTM gets that bike reliable then we will talk.
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:05 PM   #89
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Good grief Charlie Brown!!!!! Hey everyone has a penis, OK.

What they did with this F800 is really fantastic. It stands on its own as a well thought out, nicely farkled motorcycle that none of you would say no to if offered it. It is not only a nice piece to look at standing still but actually goes.

Look at it on its merits and quit measuring each others peckers already!!!

None of us could drive an F1 car to its capabilities and most of us can't come close to driving to the capabilities of our cars parked in the driveway so get over yourselves already!

And as for the merits of longevity, maintenance free, lack of breakdowns, etc., you wish you could last longer too. Get over it!
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:15 PM   #90
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here is a relatively stock 950 ADV...
turning an 800GS into a race bike is a waste of time and money when you can just buy the KTM.
I don't see anything my "relatively stock" F8 can't do in there if it were ridden by a rider with similar skills.

I can't do all that stuff because I've been riding dirt all of 3 months. Can you?
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