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Old 11-21-2009, 10:11 PM   #91
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here is a relatively stock 950 ADV...
turning an 800GS into a race bike is a waste of time and money when you can just buy the KTM.
Oh for fuck's sake. Go troll somewhere else.


Btw, what does "relatively" mean? I didn't see anything done there I couldn't do on my "relatively" stock 800GS.
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:01 AM   #92
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Can't we all just get along?





We all suck at this shit regardless of what we ride.

That includes you.

And you.

And me.


Not Stefano though. Just sayin...



Finishing 5th in the Erzberg as a privateer is sick.
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Old 11-22-2009, 02:34 AM   #93
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Can't we all just get along?

We all suck at this shit regardless of what we ride.

That includes you.

And you.

And me.


Not Stefano though. Just sayin...


Finishing 5th in the Erzberg as a privateer is sick.

that bike finished 5th in erzberg? i stand corrected. i'll go back to my cave now.
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Old 11-22-2009, 02:35 AM   #94
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that bike finished 5th in erzberg? i stand corrected. i'll go back to my cave now.
yeah you keep walkin' boy.
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Old 11-22-2009, 02:50 AM   #95
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For those who are wondering
"What exactly is .... THE Erzberg Rodeo?"


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Old 11-22-2009, 04:33 AM   #96
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For those who are wondering
"What exactly is .... THE Erzberg Rodeo?"
Those seem to be hare scramble or rocket ride races. I think the F800GS raced in the prologue race in the twin cylinder category. I am hoping to go as an spectator for 2010.. I have a brother living in Austria so it wouldn't be too hard to organize the trip.

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Old 11-22-2009, 06:55 AM   #97
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The bike's performance will only make a difference if you can get 100% of its potential out of it... Until you get there (we probably never will as we will not turn pro) enjoy your ride and focus on improving your skills on what ever bike you like
Yes and No. Improved suspension can help riders at all levels, just those that push it harder will notice/need the improvements more. To imply that most riders will never benefit because they aren't riding a bike at a competitive skill level is just wrong. First time I rode an 800 down a hardpack rutted road at speed I knew the dampening in the forks was lousy and different valving would make it better. Was I pushing it 100%? As far the stock valving doing it's job, yes, but that doesn't mean that other guys couldn't push it harder and ride faster than I did. I haven't seen any of the Bitubo adopters claim they are capable of getting 100% out of the stock bike, yet they all rave about how much better it is now.

Again all this talk of "it's rider skill, not the bike" is of course true. But equipment DOES matter. There will always be somebody that can get more out of a machine...well, except for ONE guy
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:11 AM   #98
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Man... watching that Erzberg footage makes my heart pound. I can't think of anything that tests the limits of safety equipment more than that lol. (I was about to say test the limits of human and machine but the Dakar race does that pretty well too).
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:41 PM   #99
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erzberg and erzberg...

Yup, no two ways about it, the Erzberg enduro is one of the gnarliest things people can do in the dirt. Between that, and events like Romaniacs and Last Man Standing and even stadium enduro stuff, the concept of "off road" riding is getting radical-er.

Just don't go thinking that any big BMW or KTM has ever come close to finishing the full-on Erzberg. When people are talking about "the factory KTM twins winning Erzberg" or "the BMW that came 5th" they are referring to the hillclimb prologue, which is a high speed gravel road time trial. Rocky, fast as shit, but not exactly the gnalrfest that defines the rest of the event...






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Man... watching that Erzberg footage makes my heart pound. I can't think of anything that tests the limits of safety equipment more than that lol. (I was about to say test the limits of human and machine but the Dakar race does that pretty well too).
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Old 11-22-2009, 02:00 PM   #100
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That bike sure appeals to me and kinda reinforces some thoughts on mods I have been considering. Narrower excel rims, cutting off the ankle breaker rear seat pegs, lighter muffler and a single front rotor setup. Are there some X challenge pieces there? Thinking perhaps the master cylinder and the rotor itself?
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:01 PM   #101
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Those seem to be hare scramble or rocket ride races. I think the F800GS raced in the prologue race in the twin cylinder category. I am hoping to go as an spectator for 2010.. I have a brother living in Austria so it wouldn't be too hard to organize the trip.

Cheers!
Any references? Otherwise let's ask the bike owner where he rode it!

Either way, it's a bad ass bike.

My original point however is that a stock KTM and a stock BMW are both just that: stock. What this guy and Twalcom did to this heavily modified F800GS puts it far above stock KTM's, BMW's, Suzuki's, Yamaha's, etc. I've ridden KTM 640's and 990's. I've also ridden the F800GS for a year now. In stock form, all of these bikes I listed are fairly equal. Some are better in some areas but lack in others. Some lack in some areas but are better in others. Example: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=18In the end they even out in stock form. But, c'mon, let's be real: what's been done to this bike almost equals a full on Dakar Rally bike.




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Old 11-22-2009, 06:15 PM   #102
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Looks like a lot of fun!

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Just don't go thinking that any big BMW or KTM has ever come close to finishing the full-on Erzberg. When people are talking about "the factory KTM twins winning Erzberg" or "the BMW that came 5th" they are referring to the hillclimb prologue, which is a high speed gravel road time trial. Rocky, fast as shit, but not exactly the gnalrfest that defines the rest of the event...


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Old 11-22-2009, 10:40 PM   #103
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Quote Mtothef- "looking at pictures and videos of dudes roosting either tricked out f800s or se950s around dirt parking lots or "slightly bumpy" ground, or hearing about how they ruled erzberg when they really ruled a very wide, very smooth fire road that some dude from slovakia also ruled on an r1 with knobbies, well, it makes me wonder just what some people think of in terms of "real world dirt bike riding."

Well that's what I think is amazing about it. The pro's with HP2's and SE's are hitting triple digit speeds on 400 lb plus bikes with no run off or guard rails and huge drop offs on a extreme dirt road. There's all kinds of "real world dirt biking" in your terms. The guy with an R1 is just stupid!

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Old 11-23-2009, 02:15 AM   #104
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Any references? Otherwise let's ask the bike owner where he rode it!
Here:
http://www.motorradreporter.at/jart/...sertbomber.pdf

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Old 11-23-2009, 06:20 AM   #105
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That is the coolest f800gs I have ever laid eyes on. Too bad the cost to get it there is so much. The 18 inch rear, better forks and rear suspension, and that engine guard alone make the bike way more offroad worthy.
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