Installing an Acewell speedo/computer on an airhead -- - Page 13

bpeckm · 05-17-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mork

Also for my bike ('78 R80) the wiring diagram is wrong on here. Pin 12 from the square rubber connector is definitely common ground and not a green/black switched power. The other wires seemed right though. Good thing I tested them.

Pin 12? Common ground is a brown wire, pin 12 is either green/black or green/blue (hard to tell!)....Does your charge indicator system work? (I made up that wiring diagram originally, so I want to make sure it is right... both of the charge lights that I made up used 12 and 4, which were green/bl and lightblue, respectively.

mork · 05-18-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by alister102

"A note about the Acewell 2853: Obviously now that they don't import the 2802/3, the 2853 is what I went with. I re-oriented the circuitry and do-dads in the pod itself so I could mount it off-center:"

curious- I'm not sure what you mean by this- I'm considering getting the 2853 as well. what are the differences and why did you need to get inside?

looks great!

Bezel holding everything together screws on. Earlier in this thread, a guy who said he worked for them mentioned prying it off with a screwdriver. (this is with a 2803) Don't try and pry it off with the 2853 - you will jack up the case.

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Pin 12? Common ground is a brown wire, pin 12 is either green/black or green/blue (hard to tell!)....Does your charge indicator system work? (I made up that wiring diagram originally, so I want to make sure it is right... both of the charge lights that I made up used 12 and 4, which were green/bl and lightblue, respectively.

Yes - I figured that you did it right, so I spent a TON of time trying to figure it out - I even cut apart my square rubber connector to verify. And, yes, the charge indicator worked fine with the old gauges - still have not wired up a separate LED for the new setup.

alister102 · 05-19-2011, 08:47 AM

Any idea if the acewell will work with my dyna III electronic ignition?
about to take the plunge.

Also, any further info on the charge light situation? still best to use an external light or has a solution for the acewell light been discovered?

Thanks,

Aric

bpeckm · 05-19-2011, 09:06 AM

In my correspondence with Craig, at Acewell UK, he sent me his thoughts on how to use the "Hazard" symbol as a charging light on the 2000-series Acewells, and he then refers to the new units being developed now.

From Craig at Acewell:

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Hi Bob,

Your thread on the the forum is very interesting, one thing I would suggest for any future conversions you may do would be to use a cable drive adaptor instead of the ACE-S magnet as they are much easier to install and look neater. The ACE-S4 fits motoguzzi perfectly and the ACE-S11 fits BMW boxers with a gearbox speedo drive.

The plastic multipin plugs are the standard plugs used on most Japanese motorcycles and we have tried to keep to standard connectors. Many units are also available with waterproof connectors which are slightly larger and these are the standard fitment on all Japanese quads/atvs.

I think that the problem with the charging lamp is a misunderstanding. The Acewell does not have a charging lamp, the double triangle is a hazard warning symbol.

You can make the hazard symbol work as a charging lamp however, and this is probably your best method:

Get a very small current 12v relay and wire the coil to replace your current bulb.
Connect the light blue hazard symbol power supply wire to the switched side (normally open) of the relay and +12v to the input of the switched side of the relay.

The hazard LED should then work as you want.

For future units which are coming into production now - ACE-5xxx, ACE-6xxx, ACE-7xxx and ACE-8xxx they have a charging lamp (battery symbol) that is controlled by a voltmeter inside the computer and you can set the voltage that you want the lamp to come on and go off. You would then replace the original bulb with a 68 ohm (I think) resistor.

Best Regards
Craig
Acewell UK

alister102 · 05-19-2011, 12:49 PM

Thanks Bob, that's helpful. Any idea about compatibility with the electronic ignition, I no longer have the bean can.

bpeckm · 05-19-2011, 02:53 PM

I have put one on a /6 with points, and on a bike with Hall sensor, hooked up per instructions, and they both work fine (it is the tach pickup that depends on the "ignition" sensor, and signal is picked up at the coil, either way)

alister102 · 05-20-2011, 06:19 AM

Then I guess the only thing left to do is order one up! I'll get the speedo cable as well- anyone else have more feedback on the s11 cable?

edray · 05-20-2011, 07:03 AM

simple easy..
works fine..

alister102 · 06-06-2011, 09:12 AM

Got the 2853 from dime city with s11 cable, all electrics are working- 2 questions- anyone know how to get the fuel sensor to stop blinking and does the yellow tach wire go straight to the coil or to the black tach wire in the harness?

pics soon.

bpeckm · 06-06-2011, 10:33 AM

My fuel gauge blinks, too... not hooked up to anything.

What model do you have? I have a /6, so there is no tach wire, but the later bikes with electronic tachs have that wire...The black tach wire in the harness goes to/from the coil, so you can use it as is... try it and see if it works!

I am having issues with the tach signal not being at all steady (jumps to 2x revs and back again).... but I have plain points, not the electronic ignition. I ran the wire to the coil directly... might have to try the "wrap it around the sparkplug lead" method to see if it works better. On the other bike that I put an Acewell on, the tach worked perfectly, but it was electronic ignition...

alister102 · 06-06-2011, 12:19 PM

Great, thanks-
not quite road worthy yet, but soon...

CAW · 06-25-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyR65

So far I really like the Motogadgets Tiny. I use a TinyTach for tuning the carbs, easy to install and remove.

Good job with the R65. I have my own R65 daily driver that is slowly evolving over time. My New Speedo should be here this week, but I am wondering what to do with the ignition. Where did you put yours?

Cheers,

Colby

alister102 · 06-25-2011, 07:46 AM

love the motogadget stuff- wanted the classic but not going to spend that kind of money. happy with this so far.

riverdale · 06-30-2011, 03:34 PM

I have the 3904 acewell, and was able to successfully hook to th original black tach wire in the harness to the yellow acewell wire. Not jumpy at all, and works like a charm. I too ordered the acewelll s-11 cable from dimecity. Seemed like fast friendly service, and got a tracking number this morning :)

alister102 · 07-01-2011, 07:35 AM

Thanks, I did just that, wired the black the yellow and have a good tach reading.

Here's my problem though-

I took the bike for the first ride since the re-builid and melted some wires under the tank, right front turn signal.
engine died, cut the wires and restarted, head down the road, engine cut again but couldn't locate any more melting.
Looking through the harness where it meets the acewell wiring it looks like I used the black/grey wire that runs through the smaller fuse for power and the blue/green wire for the gen light. is this the problem? too much current? do i need to split the blue/green wire for power and gen light?

any help appreciated, don't want to fry anything else! The bike will start and idle without issue.

05-19-2011, 02:53 PM	#186
bpeckm ^OP Grin! Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Road Island Oddometer: 4,429	I have put one on a /6 with points, and on a bike with Hall sensor, hooked up per instructions, and they both work fine (it is the tach pickup that depends on the "ignition" sensor, and signal is picked up at the coil, either way) __________________ XS650 becomes a Vermont Backroader R60/6 gets caffeinated Portsmouth RI

06-06-2011, 10:33 AM	#190
bpeckm ^OP Grin! Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Road Island Oddometer: 4,429	My fuel gauge blinks, too... not hooked up to anything. What model do you have? I have a /6, so there is no tach wire, but the later bikes with electronic tachs have that wire...The black tach wire in the harness goes to/from the coil, so you can use it as is... try it and see if it works! I am having issues with the tach signal not being at all steady (jumps to 2x revs and back again).... but I have plain points, not the electronic ignition. I ran the wire to the coil directly... might have to try the "wrap it around the sparkplug lead" method to see if it works better. On the other bike that I put an Acewell on, the tach worked perfectly, but it was electronic ignition... __________________ XS650 becomes a Vermont Backroader R60/6 gets caffeinated Portsmouth RI

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05-19-2011, 08:47 AM	#183
alister102 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Western Massachusetts Oddometer: 250	Any idea if the acewell will work with my dyna III electronic ignition? about to take the plunge. Also, any further info on the charge light situation? still best to use an external light or has a solution for the acewell light been discovered? Thanks, Aric

05-19-2011, 12:49 PM	#185
alister102 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Western Massachusetts Oddometer: 250	Thanks Bob, that's helpful. Any idea about compatibility with the electronic ignition, I no longer have the bean can.

05-20-2011, 06:19 AM	#187
alister102 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Western Massachusetts Oddometer: 250	Then I guess the only thing left to do is order one up! I'll get the speedo cable as well- anyone else have more feedback on the s11 cable?

05-20-2011, 07:03 AM	#188
edray cascadian Joined: Aug 2010 Location: Behind the Gray Curtain Oddometer: 189	simple easy.. works fine..

06-06-2011, 09:12 AM	#189
alister102 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Western Massachusetts Oddometer: 250	Got the 2853 from dime city with s11 cable, all electrics are working- 2 questions- anyone know how to get the fuel sensor to stop blinking and does the yellow tach wire go straight to the coil or to the black tach wire in the harness? pics soon.

06-06-2011, 12:19 PM	#191
alister102 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Western Massachusetts Oddometer: 250	Great, thanks- not quite road worthy yet, but soon...

06-25-2011, 07:46 AM	#193
alister102 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Western Massachusetts Oddometer: 250	love the motogadget stuff- wanted the classic but not going to spend that kind of money. happy with this so far.

06-30-2011, 03:34 PM	#194
riverdale Adventurer Joined: May 2011 Oddometer: 20	I have the 3904 acewell, and was able to successfully hook to th original black tach wire in the harness to the yellow acewell wire. Not jumpy at all, and works like a charm. I too ordered the acewelll s-11 cable from dimecity. Seemed like fast friendly service, and got a tracking number this morning :)

07-01-2011, 07:35 AM	#195
alister102 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Western Massachusetts Oddometer: 250	Thanks, I did just that, wired the black the yellow and have a good tach reading. Here's my problem though- I took the bike for the first ride since the re-builid and melted some wires under the tank, right front turn signal. engine died, cut the wires and restarted, head down the road, engine cut again but couldn't locate any more melting. Looking through the harness where it meets the acewell wiring it looks like I used the black/grey wire that runs through the smaller fuse for power and the blue/green wire for the gen light. is this the problem? too much current? do i need to split the blue/green wire for power and gen light? any help appreciated, don't want to fry anything else! The bike will start and idle without issue.