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Old 11-29-2009, 01:20 PM   #1
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Building a Single Track

I have a 4.6 mile track at my place and am extending it another couple miles. Currently it's pretty mild with a few ravine crossings and a couple small hill climbs. I have bypasses around the hill climbs. The track is marked with Black arrows and the bypasses are in red. Here are a few photos of the current track just after cutting it out thru the woods


Downhill


off camber


tight section



Ravine


Top of one of the hills



It's basically a ride in the woods with very little challenge as far as rough terrain goes. It is a little tight in spots with some tight turns. it is not as flat as it looks in the pics,there is probably as much as 200/300' of elevation change with alot of off camber hillside trail. Here are some options that I would like and can add to this track. drop off into a small rocky creek for 100/150yds. Some rock ledge obstcales. (up/down over) and some log crossings.More hillside/off camber stuff.

I'm planning to mark the main route in black with the tougher off chutes in a different color and all bypasses in red. I am only a spectator at races so am not to familiar with what to put in for other riders. I am planning on opening this up for the local area (yea,got the waivers etc...) for local dirt riders only. NO QUADS so I can keep it a true single track. I ride alot of local quad trails and backroads,but nowhere can you go just for bikes.Soooooo..

Should I widen out the turns to keep it flowing,or leave them tight ?

What would YOU look for in a nice practice track?

I would like this to be somewhere where the local boys could come and pound out several practice laps without any interuption from quads or jeeps etc. Once it's broke in I hope to open up in April for riders. So I have a few months to work on it. Total track loop should be around 5.5 to 6 miles when finished

Any Ideas or thoughts would be appreciated

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Old 11-29-2009, 04:22 PM   #2
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I think the turns should be bermed and wide enough to take at a medium lean with a leg out at about 20mph, but mix it up to keep it interesting! Make the track as winding as possible to make it as long as possible, even switchback the uphills to save from excessive erosion and make it more technical. Off camber is great but change the angles often, include short cuts and alternate routes to make the track seem longer and give beginners a way out. Make an exclusively hard section! Clump your obtacles together in obviously technical areas of terrain to keep the parts that should be fast and flowing from being frustratingly slow. Employ local volunteers who do ride for hands that work as well as input of what they would like done. Did I mention berms? Make lots of them, they are fun. Keep the trail wide enough in most places to fit two bike or a quad but also build in some bottle necks to keep it interesting! All this in my own opinion.
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:45 PM   #3
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:17 PM   #4
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I wish you were on the other side of VA so I could come play.

Keep it tight. Make it hard.
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:20 PM   #5
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I wish you were on the other side of VA so I could come play.

Keep it tight. Make it hard.
Dude, He rides a KLR.
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:40 AM   #6
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No hard feelins,I get hammered by my KTM buds all the time Mike
No hard feelngs meant.

Bucho said: "Keep it tight. Make it hard."

The KLR, while being a good bike, is not the best tool for tight/hard single track.

My 54 year old Brother decided to buy a bike this Summer (after 25 years of not riding) When he asked me what he should buy I told him (without hesitation) to get a KLR SO HE DID.

Good on you for using yours as intended.
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:03 AM   #7
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Keep it tight. It'll widen on it's own.

Invite 10 of your best riding buddies over to "burn it in".

If you don't have 10+ guys that ride singletrack, put a post up on KTMtalk and here in regionals. Have a ride day at your place with some local Enduro and HS guys. You'll have great trail in no time.
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:11 AM   #8
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Keep it tight. It'll widen on it's own.

Invite 10 of your best riding buddies over to "burn it in".

If you don't have 10+ guys that ride singletrack, put a post up on KTMtalk and here in regionals. Have a ride day at your place with some local Enduro and HS guys. You'll have great trail in no time.
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this guy knows what he's talkin about, couldnt have said it any better.
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:12 AM   #9
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:58 PM   #10
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Looks good Mike, I enjoyed what you had done when I was down there in the spring, I wish I could have gotten down again this year to visit but work had me pretty addled.

I'm in the "make it a challenge" camp for a home-track, if for no other reason than it's a safe, close and easy place to hone your skills at your leisure...but I guess it depends on who uses it most, but that would be my preference.

I'm doing a similar set up with my meager 44 acres this winter, and plan on utilizing the terrain as best I can to make it a challenge by including the creek banks, hills and tight sections.
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:13 PM   #11
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Thought that was maryland or wv, i think you're on the right 'track' my friend. I'm....so....jealous.
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:04 PM   #12
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Man I envy you. I own 129 acres of private, wooded land at the base of a small mountain and no time to make a trail system like that. I will definitely try to find 10 riders or so that are interested in grinding out a trail with me this spring. That makes a lot of sense. Or I can just wait until my kids are older and turn them loose on it.
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Old 12-02-2009, 04:12 PM   #13
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Cool. I really like what you have done with the place. A lot of people who I know that ride would be more than willing to help out if you let them ride around too.


Before I moved out of my Dad's place I did a project like this. We have about 13 acres to work with on his property. Me and my friend managed to cut in about 3 miles of trails. I was told to go for it, but I had to make everything wide enough for a 4 wheeler so that my dad could get around to work on his trees and such with a quad and tools like a chain saw or a weed-eater for the brush.

He now has all his friends bring their toys over to his place for BBQ's and riding days. It is not much, but it is only 10 minutes from town.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:34 PM   #14
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You'll get the AMA trail building guide.
Lots of interesting information on single track trail building.
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:41 AM   #15
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The KLR, while being a good bike, is not the best tool for tight/hard single track.
no offence, but its not the bike. its the rider that makes the bike.
holycaveman off klr650.net below.

observe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY0hzNVq_h0

the KLR is just as capable, and with a few mods, it can become easily more then capable.
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