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Old 03-24-2014, 05:14 PM   #4546
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I'm guessing if the BLM is doing this then San Benito Co has said yes. If not, then the BLM is asking for a spanking.
SBC has not given the BLM permission. The BLM is proceeding without authority as they have from the get go. They think they're in charge.

Latest word is bikes are being checked for turn signals, DOT tires, etc. Make sure your charcoal canister didn't fall off. Be entirely street legal if you go there.


All the problems in this country, and they want to deny the public access to public lands for bullshit, falsified reports of health issues. Is it THAT much trouble to let us ride there? It's not like they maintained it when it was open...
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:01 PM   #4547
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Rick Cooper is a criminal.
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:24 PM   #4548
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Rick Cooper is a criminal.
Damn straight. Robbing the citizens. Committing highway robbery... literally.
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:42 PM   #4549
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Damn straight. Robbing the citizens. Committing highway robbery... literally.
Vigilante Justice, Federal Government style.

Rick Cooper is strong arming the general public into knuckling
under so he can convert Clear Creek into what essentially will
be the nations biggest toxic waste facility.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:45 AM   #4550
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Apex Molester put up videos of the SBC BoS meeting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzsHazdSNHk

Doesn't look like the Board was supportive...
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:55 AM   #4551
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We're probably running up the political meter too much for this thread. But final word for me is that perhaps legal action should be considered through a group like Pacific Legal Foundation.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:19 AM   #4552
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Apex Molester put up videos of the SBC BoS meeting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzsHazdSNHk

Doesn't look like the Board was supportive...

Two Board Members have historically been very supportive. And the Board stood up to the BLM a few years back when they tried to close the county roads (i.e.: close roads that aren't theirs).

This may be political, but it directly impacts one of the extremely few areas within 2 hours of my house where I can do some ADV riding.
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:55 AM   #4553
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Just sayin' hi...

Hi everyone,
Just a quick message to say hi. I recently took the Rawhyde level 1 class + BCA in Mojave that were simply awesome, and I hope to tag along in one of your rides soon, assuming it's doable on my trusty 1150GSA. I'll be joining you from the Santa Cruz mountains.

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Old 03-26-2014, 12:32 PM   #4554
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Posted this over in the KLR section, but need some local info if anyone can help.

Looking at some long-shot info here.
Has anyone rode from the Bay Area down to Death Valley, and how long did it take you?
And also what route did you take?
Google Maps is recommending 5 to 58 to 14 to 395. But Hwy 50 over to 395 is only 9 minutes longer and 47 miles shorter. And... I wouldn't have to deal with all the trucks on 5 or 99. This latest weather front is going to make sure that 108 and 120 will stay closed for a while.

I'll be heading down April 8th thru the 15th on a 2008 KLR with plenty of gear.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:51 PM   #4555
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Posted this over in the KLR section, but need some local info if anyone can help.

Looking at some long-shot info here.
Has anyone rode from the Bay Area down to Death Valley, and how long did it take you?
And also what route did you take?
Google Maps is recommending 5 to 58 to 14 to 395. But Hwy 50 over to 395 is only 9 minutes longer and 47 miles shorter. And... I wouldn't have to deal with all the trucks on 5 or 99. This latest weather front is going to make sure that 108 and 120 will stay closed for a while.

I'll be heading down April 8th thru the 15th on a 2008 KLR with plenty of gear.
We rode to Stovepipe Wells from San Jose a couple of years back. Our route was essentially 101 > 152 > 5 > 99 > 168 > 65 > 58 > 14 > 395 > 190, and took about 8 hours to arrive. Riding in to DV at sunset was a slightly surreal experience, especially after the rain/hail/snow on the way there. Also, Jawbone Canyon store on 14 is a great place to stop for gas and a chat with other riders.

Personally, my guidance would be pick the route that excites you the most/roads you haven't ridden, be packed up the night before, and hit the road early.


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Old 03-26-2014, 01:08 PM   #4556
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We rode to Stovepipe Wells from San Jose a couple of years back. Our route was essentially 101 > 152 > 5 > 99 > 168 > 65 > 58 > 14 > 395 > 190, and took about 8 hours to arrive. Riding in to DV at sunset was a slightly surreal experience, especially after the rain/hail/snow on the way there. Also, Jawbone Canyon store on 14 is a great place to stop for gas and a chat with other riders.

Personally, my guidance would be pick the route that excites you the most/roads you haven't ridden, be packed up the night before, and hit the road early.
Time will just depend on how much time you want to spend on slab vs. fun roads. I rode down there last year and it took me 10 hours, but the route was a lot more fun than slab.

This was roughly my route: 101>198>101>58>178>395

You could add more slab at the start, but I highly recommend taking 178 toward Lake Isabella out of Bakersfield. I don't think it adds much time, but it's waaaaay more scenic and fun than slogging east on 58 out of Bako.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:04 PM   #4557
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Try this, or parts of it.

Highly recommend Old Stage Road out of Porterville and 155 .
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:16 PM   #4558
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You could add more slab at the start, but I highly recommend taking 178 toward Lake Isabella out of Bakersfield. I don't think it adds much time, but it's waaaaay more scenic and fun than slogging east on 58 out of Bako.
We would have loved to ride 178 on the way out, but luckily caught it another time. Great road and scenery, but be prepared to DYP (double yellow pass).
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:23 PM   #4559
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I'll be heading down April 8th thru the 15th on a 2008 KLR with plenty of gear.
My favorite route, and the one I'll be taking on Apr 11 is

whatever -> 101 -> 25 -> 198 -> 33 -> 46 -> Famoso rd -> Granite rd -> 155 -> 178 -> wildrose -> 190 -> stovepipe wells. About 475 miles from San Mateo.

Breakfast in Hollister, gas in Coalinga, rest stop at the 46/99 intersection, gas and another rest stop in Mt Mesa, one last stop at Trona.

Route map at the bottom of this page going to Furnace Creek instead of stopping at Stovepipe wells.

Minimal freeways, little traffic on a weekday. Don't know how it might be on a weekend.
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Old 03-26-2014, 05:20 PM   #4560
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My favorite route, and the one I'll be taking on Apr 11 is

whatever -> 101 -> 25 -> 198 -> 33 -> 46 -> Famoso rd -> Granite rd -> 155 -> 178 -> wildrose -> 190 -> stovepipe wells. About 475 miles from San Mateo.

Breakfast in Hollister, gas in Coalinga, rest stop at the 46/99 intersection, gas and another rest stop in Mt Mesa, one last stop at Trona.

Route map at the bottom of this page going to Furnace Creek instead of stopping at Stovepipe wells.

Minimal freeways, little traffic on a weekday. Don't know how it might be on a weekend.
nice route
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