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Old 03-26-2014, 12:51 PM   #4561
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Posted this over in the KLR section, but need some local info if anyone can help.

Looking at some long-shot info here.
Has anyone rode from the Bay Area down to Death Valley, and how long did it take you?
And also what route did you take?
Google Maps is recommending 5 to 58 to 14 to 395. But Hwy 50 over to 395 is only 9 minutes longer and 47 miles shorter. And... I wouldn't have to deal with all the trucks on 5 or 99. This latest weather front is going to make sure that 108 and 120 will stay closed for a while.

I'll be heading down April 8th thru the 15th on a 2008 KLR with plenty of gear.
We rode to Stovepipe Wells from San Jose a couple of years back. Our route was essentially 101 > 152 > 5 > 99 > 168 > 65 > 58 > 14 > 395 > 190, and took about 8 hours to arrive. Riding in to DV at sunset was a slightly surreal experience, especially after the rain/hail/snow on the way there. Also, Jawbone Canyon store on 14 is a great place to stop for gas and a chat with other riders.

Personally, my guidance would be pick the route that excites you the most/roads you haven't ridden, be packed up the night before, and hit the road early.


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Old 03-26-2014, 01:08 PM   #4562
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We rode to Stovepipe Wells from San Jose a couple of years back. Our route was essentially 101 > 152 > 5 > 99 > 168 > 65 > 58 > 14 > 395 > 190, and took about 8 hours to arrive. Riding in to DV at sunset was a slightly surreal experience, especially after the rain/hail/snow on the way there. Also, Jawbone Canyon store on 14 is a great place to stop for gas and a chat with other riders.

Personally, my guidance would be pick the route that excites you the most/roads you haven't ridden, be packed up the night before, and hit the road early.
Time will just depend on how much time you want to spend on slab vs. fun roads. I rode down there last year and it took me 10 hours, but the route was a lot more fun than slab.

This was roughly my route: 101>198>101>58>178>395

You could add more slab at the start, but I highly recommend taking 178 toward Lake Isabella out of Bakersfield. I don't think it adds much time, but it's waaaaay more scenic and fun than slogging east on 58 out of Bako.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:04 PM   #4563
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Try this, or parts of it.

Highly recommend Old Stage Road out of Porterville and 155 .
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:16 PM   #4564
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You could add more slab at the start, but I highly recommend taking 178 toward Lake Isabella out of Bakersfield. I don't think it adds much time, but it's waaaaay more scenic and fun than slogging east on 58 out of Bako.
We would have loved to ride 178 on the way out, but luckily caught it another time. Great road and scenery, but be prepared to DYP (double yellow pass).
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:23 PM   #4565
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I'll be heading down April 8th thru the 15th on a 2008 KLR with plenty of gear.
My favorite route, and the one I'll be taking on Apr 11 is

whatever -> 101 -> 25 -> 198 -> 33 -> 46 -> Famoso rd -> Granite rd -> 155 -> 178 -> wildrose -> 190 -> stovepipe wells. About 475 miles from San Mateo.

Breakfast in Hollister, gas in Coalinga, rest stop at the 46/99 intersection, gas and another rest stop in Mt Mesa, one last stop at Trona.

Route map at the bottom of this page going to Furnace Creek instead of stopping at Stovepipe wells.

Minimal freeways, little traffic on a weekday. Don't know how it might be on a weekend.
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Old 03-26-2014, 05:20 PM   #4566
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My favorite route, and the one I'll be taking on Apr 11 is

whatever -> 101 -> 25 -> 198 -> 33 -> 46 -> Famoso rd -> Granite rd -> 155 -> 178 -> wildrose -> 190 -> stovepipe wells. About 475 miles from San Mateo.

Breakfast in Hollister, gas in Coalinga, rest stop at the 46/99 intersection, gas and another rest stop in Mt Mesa, one last stop at Trona.

Route map at the bottom of this page going to Furnace Creek instead of stopping at Stovepipe wells.

Minimal freeways, little traffic on a weekday. Don't know how it might be on a weekend.
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Old 03-26-2014, 06:18 PM   #4567
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Posted this over in the KLR section, but need some local info if anyone can help.

Looking at some long-shot info here.
Has anyone rode from the Bay Area down to Death Valley, and how long did it take you?
And also what route did you take?
Google Maps is recommending 5 to 58 to 14 to 395. But Hwy 50 over to 395 is only 9 minutes longer and 47 miles shorter. And... I wouldn't have to deal with all the trucks on 5 or 99. This latest weather front is going to make sure that 108 and 120 will stay closed for a while.

I'll be heading down April 8th thru the 15th on a 2008 KLR with plenty of gear.
We usually do 2 days down, 1 day back. Think scenic and twisty.

1->cambria->41->stuff->58->Bakersfield->Best Western
178->395->190?->into Death Valley

Home we usually turn south towards Ridgecrest just before Panamint Springs, then take 178 back through to Bakersfield and after that, whatever you want to get home... usually as little of 5 as possible. It's a long slog home. Think... I have to work tomorrow, I need to get home TODAY.
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:20 PM   #4568
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Time will just depend on how much time you want to spend on slab vs. fun roads. I rode down there last year and it took me 10 hours, but the route was a lot more fun than slab.

This was roughly my route: 101>198>101>58>178>395

You could add more slab at the start, but I highly recommend taking 178 toward Lake Isabella out of Bakersfield. I don't think it adds much time, but it's waaaaay more scenic and fun than slogging east on 58 out of Bako.
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My favorite route, and the one I'll be taking on Apr 11 is

whatever -> 101 -> 25 -> 198 -> 33 -> 46 -> Famoso rd -> Granite rd -> 155 -> 178 -> wildrose -> 190 -> stovepipe wells. About 475 miles from San Mateo.

Breakfast in Hollister, gas in Coalinga, rest stop at the 46/99 intersection, gas and another rest stop in Mt Mesa, one last stop at Trona.

Route map at the bottom of this page going to Furnace Creek instead of stopping at Stovepipe wells.

Minimal freeways, little traffic on a weekday. Don't know how it might be on a weekend.
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We usually do 2 days down, 1 day back. Think scenic and twisty.

1->cambria->41->stuff->58->Bakersfield->Best Western
178->395->190?->into Death Valley

Home we usually turn south towards Ridgecrest just before Panamint Springs, then take 178 back through to Bakersfield and after that, whatever you want to get home... usually as little of 5 as possible. It's a long slog home. Think... I have to work tomorrow, I need to get home TODAY.
WOW! Thanks for all the great response.
I'm taking three days down to get to Prescott Arizona and decided to see Death Valley on the bike this time. I've 4wheeled thru Panamint Valley, and up some of the canyons, but thought I'd enjoy the scenery along the way. I'm actually trying to make Wildrose Camp in one day from Napa and plan on leaving here around 5:00 AM.
Now I have to rethink this route with all these new possibilities.
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:36 PM   #4569
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I'm actually trying to make Wildrose Camp in one day from Napa and plan on leaving here around 5:00 AM.
Now I have to rethink this route with all these new possibilities.
I typically leave San Mateo at 6 AM and get to Stovepipe Wells about 5 PM. That includes my breakfast stop, but I don't have a sit-down lunch. Were I going to Wildrose I'm guessing it would be about 30 minutes faster taking my route. Unless I have to backtrack to Bakersfield and 178 because 155 is closed due to snow. Check before making any final decisions.

From Napa I'd consider 680 -> 580 -> I5 and drone south for a 150 miles or so to 46. It would cut your travel time by a lot. Wouldn't be much fun, though.
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:30 PM   #4570
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Posted this over in the KLR section, but need some local info if anyone can help.

Looking at some long-shot info here.
Has anyone rode from the Bay Area down to Death Valley, and how long did it take you?
And also what route did you take?
Google Maps is recommending 5 to 58 to 14 to 395. But Hwy 50 over to 395 is only 9 minutes longer and 47 miles shorter. And... I wouldn't have to deal with all the trucks on 5 or 99. This latest weather front is going to make sure that 108 and 120 will stay closed for a while.

I'll be heading down April 8th thru the 15th on a 2008 KLR with plenty of gear.
I usually do 101 -> 25 -> Coalinga/Los Gatos Creek -> Gas/Food in Coalinga -> 198 across the valley -> Old Stage Road -> 155 -> overnight/beer in Kernville -> 178 -> Ballarat -> Goler Wash -> Mengal Pass -> Furnace Creek
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:56 PM   #4571
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This may be political, but it directly impacts one of the extremely few areas within 2 hours of my house where I can do some ADV riding.
There's always "Tread Lightly" for this kind of thing.
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Old 03-27-2014, 12:22 PM   #4572
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Has anyone rode from the Bay Area down to Death Valley, and how long did it take you?
And also what route did you take?
Google Maps is recommending 5 to 58 to 14 to 395. But Hwy 50 over to 395 is only 9 minutes longer and 47 miles shorter. And... I wouldn't have to deal with all the trucks on 5 or 99. This latest weather front is going to make sure that 108 and 120 will stay closed for a while.

I'll be heading down April 8th thru the 15th on a 2008 KLR with plenty of gear.


Hi Kampfire,

We get down to DV a couple of times every winter from the BA on loaded KLRs ... Here is a screenshot of the two general ways we go over the Sierras ... to the east they keep 88, 50 and 80 plowed ... and down south 155, 178 and 58 ...

This map shows us dropping into Saline Valley from Lone Pine over North Pass ... to get to DV we'd go south over South Pass to 190 just west of Panamint ... The other way to Furnace Creek from Lone Pine is to stay on Death Valley Road to Ubehebie Crater ...

We often camp at Carrizo Plain, which is why the route goes so far to the south east ... I think the whole loop is about a thousand miles ... usually don't try to make it to DV in a day ...

Comanche Point Road is a dual-sport road just south of 58 ... you can hook up to Old Stage Road (the one by California City), Trona Pinnacles to the Escape Route and Mengle Pass and come into Furnace Creek from the south ... That way avoids 155/178/58 ... but is way south if you are in a rush ...

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I'm taking three days down to get to Prescott Arizona and decided to see Death Valley on the bike this time ... I'm actually trying to make Wildrose Camp in one day from Napa and plan on leaving here around 5:00 AM.
Just saw this ...

We'd head 88/395 to Lone Pine and south to DV from there along Death and/or Saline Valley Roads ... lots of dispersed camping ... also, probably the shortest mileage to DVNP from Napa ... we avoid the established campgrounds unless there is a hot spring or we're trying to meet someone ...

Have fun and post pics!
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Old 03-27-2014, 06:30 PM   #4573
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I'm actually trying to make Wildrose Camp in one day from Napa and plan on leaving here around 5:00 AM.
Wildrose on a KLR? It has been done...


In a day from Napa? A long day indeed. I think I went there from Santa Barbara so I'm not sure how long it's gonna take you.
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:34 AM   #4574
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Hey all,

[IMG] IMG_20140330_092626374 by San Francisco Motorcycle Club, on Flickr[/IMG]
Little Panoche Road on Gripsters yesterday, after a bit of rain ...

We're off to Mercey Hot Springs this Saturday, April 5th ... 18th and Folsom on Saturday morning around 9am, Tres Pinos around noon, I suppose, Mercey Hot Springs in the afternoon ... $40 to camp at Mercey (includes day pass), $30 for a day pass only ...

Everyone is invited, show up or don't ...

We were out that way yesterday and confirmed our reservations ... see if I can find a pic on-line of the car we helped get out of the mud ... ha.

Planning on some scoot-and-shooting and campfire action ...

see you around the corner,
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:11 AM   #4575
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I usually do 101 -> 25 -> Coalinga/Los Gatos Creek -> Gas/Food in Coalinga -> 198 across the valley -> Old Stage Road -> 155 -> overnight/beer in Kernville -> 178 -> Ballarat -> Goler Wash -> Mengal Pass -> Furnace Creek
this is the best dual sport route
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