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Old 04-07-2014, 10:52 AM   #4576
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:03 PM   #4577
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Thanks for the pictures.

Thanks John, for posting the pictures of Ken (woodsxr), and myself (Mikengrace), from the Mercy Hot springs run. It is cool to see ourselves out there riding. Thanks.
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:39 PM   #4578
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So where exactly did you guys ride? I know where Mercy Springs is, but I had been under the impression that most, if not all, of the dirt in that area was off limits to two wheeled vehicles, even street legal ones. Come to think of it, I think I remember reading of this on some scofflaw's blog... Someone who dared defy Ranger Rick and rode there anyway. Was riding at Tumey an option all winter long?

Good to hear the news about Clear Creek. We need to get back over there before summer gets here.

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Old 04-07-2014, 07:17 PM   #4579
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Thank all for such a great time yesterday.
I had a fun time. It was nice getting the KTM out in open land instead of a tight. Controlled trail system. Looking forward to doing a trip to Clear Creek
Panocha Hills is just under an hour from the house
It is nice seeing pics of us in action!
I was under the impression that you could be there as long as the vehicle is street legal.
My assumption of BLM land when I was growing up is that it would be legal to ride green sticker bikes on it
I guess things change throughout the years
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:33 PM   #4580
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Thank all for such a great time yesterday.
I had a fun time. It was nice getting the KTM out in open land instead of a tight. Controlled trail system. Looking forward to doing a trip to Clear Creek
Panocha Hills is just under an hour from the house
It is nice seeing pics of us in action!
I was under the impression that you could be there as long as the vehicle is street legal.
My assumption of BLM land when I was growing up is that it would be legal to ride green sticker bikes on it
I guess things change throughout the years
Hey Ken and Mike,

Good to see you guys, and sorry we didn't do more riding ...
We basically bummed some gas and headed home right after I said goodbye ...
Didn't get back to San Francisco 'till 6:30pm ...

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Old 04-07-2014, 07:52 PM   #4581
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Old 04-08-2014, 07:30 AM   #4582
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Nice pictures!
Hey Bob,
Thanks!
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:08 AM   #4583
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So where exactly did you guys ride? I know where Mercy Springs is, but I had been under the impression that most, if not all, of the dirt in that area was off limits to two wheeled vehicles, even street legal ones. Come to think of it, I think I remember reading of this on some scofflaw's blog... Someone who dared defy Ranger Rick and rode there anyway. Was riding at Tumey an option all winter long?

Good to hear the news about Clear Creek. We need to get back over there before summer gets here.

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Hi Hesaid,

I got some PMs about our recent Clear Creek experience, so maybe I was too glib based on all the changes that are in the wind for CC ...

Went back and looked at your thread about your March Clear Creek ride:
http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....&postcount=101

So we rode the same area except that we rode all the way through Clear Creek from east to west on what I call Clear Creek Road (R1) ... we didn't see any locked gates, or new signs ... We didn't see any new "iron rangers" at Jade Mill or Oak Flat or at the Caolinga Road entrance ... The one new gate I saw (unlocked) is in the middle of the road, not two new gates at either end, like I imagined ...

What is a bit annoying for adventure riders like me is that the BLM has no idea who really uses Clear Creek Road ... I found it on a AAA map twenty years ago and have been using it once or twice a year as a "through traveler" on my way elsewhere ... exactly like we used it Sunday ... so the planning ahead nature of the new access permits will be a PITA ...

They spent big bucks on EPA stuff and a decontamination station, but no money to find out who actually uses the road ... ranger Rick had to be questioned by the Board of Supervisors about how a locked gate and fees would impact owners and their guests who use the road to access private land and claims up there ...

We'd have been a bit screwed, gasoline-wise, if we'd run into a locked gate at, say, Coalinga Road and been turned around at that point ...

So ... we saw no difference up there to what we've seen for twenty years ... YMMV

Tumey Hills rocks ... closed in the summer fire season like Panoche ... in and out stuff like Panoche ... no dirt bikes or OHVs ... (EDIT: I’ve heard that it is NOT LEGAL to ride a street bike on the established roads in Panoche and Tumey Hills … that one may be ticketed by the BLM for trespassing …)

Anyway ... we are not scoff-laws ...

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Old 04-08-2014, 06:24 PM   #4584
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Tumey Hills rocks ... closed in the summer fire season like Panoche ... in and out stuff like Panoche ... no dirt bikes or OHVs ...

Anyway ... we are not scoff-laws ...

see you around the campfire,
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I had been under the impression that Tumey was closed to two wheeled vehicles plated or not. I had read numerous warnings (1,2,3,4,5) to that effect a while ago, and looking around, it seemed to be the case. Is it not true? Can street legal bikes ride in Tumey?

(Are you sure you're not a scoff-law? Something about a couple of those links...)

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Old 04-08-2014, 07:12 PM   #4585
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(Are you sure you're not a scoff-law? Something about a couple of those links...)

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Haha ... Nothing like being beaten over the head with your own words ...

Thanks for reminding me about that stuff ... no one likes a scofflaw ...

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PS: they never did change the signs to make it clear that only 4x4s are allowed ...
But I'll stop riding there and consider myself lucky that I never got a ticket ...
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Old 04-08-2014, 07:19 PM   #4586
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... no one likes a scofflaw ...

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Old 04-08-2014, 08:06 PM   #4587
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I consider this civil disobedience.

I ask for, not at once no government, but at once a better government.

Hey HWD,

Ah yes, I am an idiot (hanging head in shame) ...
Good thing no one reads this thread ...

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Old 04-09-2014, 10:35 PM   #4588
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Holy shit gentlemen, I just got back from Clear Creek and found it to be far from open. I went the completely lawful route this time (I was also hunting with several firearms in the truck, so I wanted to be as legal as possible) and actually got a permit to enter the asbestos zone. I would've even paid the 5 bucks if the iron ranger had been set up on the side we entered from. (New Idira) I called the Hollister office and asked if it might be possible to obtain a permit over the counter. The lady obliged me, although don't expect this level of service, especially on a weekend. Anyway long story short I had a great time cruising around, but was shocked at the amount of closed roads out there. Basically everything that was open before is still open and everything that wasn't is closed, plus they're now expecting you to get that permit. I had expected the single track to be closed, but they've also closed most of the roads. I didn't see any rangers, but there was some activity at the decon site. I also found a new BLM issued Clear Creek map that only showed the roads that are currently open. Anyway, just passing on my findings today. Hope y'all are having fun, and from the pics it looks like you are .

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Old 04-10-2014, 07:02 AM   #4589
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I had been under the impression that Tumey was closed to two wheeled vehicles plated or not. I had read numerous warnings (1,2,3,4,5) to that effect a while ago, and looking around, it seemed to be the case. Is it not true? Can street legal bikes ride in Tumey?

(Are you sure you're not a scoff-law? Something about a couple of those links...)

MV
Call the Bakersfield BLM office and ask them about the "no motorcycles" sign. I did years ago and recall them saying they meant dirt bikes (unplated).

I don't think they can single out a type of highway vehicle. If they actually do I'm going to borrow a friend's Jeep and...
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:24 PM   #4590
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Heck, the Hollister BLM leases these hills out to sheepherders to run their
flocks through in the spring time. How are 10,000+ sheep less of an
environmental impact than a handful of street legal motorcycles using
the existing access roads?


It's all about the money, and I'll bet those sheep herding contract
payments end up in Rick Coopers bank account.
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