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Old 07-11-2014, 10:42 AM   #4801
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i'd add adventure designs in Hayward. They sell quality adventure riding stuff:tents, bags, wolf man, Klim, fog lights, heated gear, pumps... etc. For my motorcycle gear, i've been going to Cycle Gear in SJ. My pants and jacket are both Klim so no need for that. But i got my boots and gloves from them. Prices aren't too bad. But will lean towards adventure designs for my next set of good winter gloves.
I really like the brothers that own Adventure Design. Good guys imho. I bought my Klim Badlands suit from them. They don't charge tax on the Klim gear.

If you are looking for winter gloves, check out the Klim Element glove. I have the short version. I have even used them the past two winters snowboarding. Good glove.

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Old 07-11-2014, 10:45 AM   #4802
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Hi all....

I am heading to Mongolia soon and just picked up a Garmin 78sc. This is my first GPS. I got a file from Walter Colebatch with his POIs, waypoints, etc. in Mongolia. Would anyone be willing to meet up and give me a quick tutorial on how to use it and how to load files, maps, etc?

My trip is coming up really soon. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

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Old 07-11-2014, 11:06 AM   #4803
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I really like the brothers that own Adventure Design. Good guys imho. I bought my Klim Badlands suit from them. They don't charge tax on the Klim gear.

If you are looking for winter gloves, check out the Klim Element glove. I have the short version. I have even used them the past two winters snowboarding. Good glove.

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Yep! Couldn't agree more. Really nice guys and really helpful too!

I actually was looking at the element gloves... why short though? Have you ridden in the rain with them? If so, how'd they hold up?
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Old 07-11-2014, 12:02 PM   #4804
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Yep! Couldn't agree more. Really nice guys and really helpful too!

I actually was looking at the element gloves... why short though? Have you ridden in the rain with them? If so, how'd they hold up?
I just like short gloves. I put them under my jacket cuffs. Not a ton of rain, but lots of snow days. They are GoreTex and have broken in nicely.

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Old 07-11-2014, 06:27 PM   #4805
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I really like the brothers that own Adventure Design. Good guys imho. I bought my Klim Badlands suit from them. They don't charge tax on the Klim gear.

If you are looking for winter gloves, check out the Klim Element glove. I have the short version. I have even used them the past two winters snowboarding. Good glove.

Yeah, they're nice guys. They have events at their shop every so often.

I used to like Klim gear. But since they released the $1300 ADV Rally jacket, their prices on everything have gone WAY up. $130 dirt pants are now $190-210. The Badlands and ADV jacket feel like I'm wearing three jackets over each other. Bulky and restrictive would be a major understatement.

Still I search for the mythical 4 season gear. Because when you're going ADV, you don't have room to pack extra gear. You don't have room for much more than camping gear and some basic tools, food, spare gloves, etc.
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Old 07-11-2014, 11:47 PM   #4806
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Hi all....

I am heading to Mongolia soon

Quick Mongolian language lesson:

Tzaaa - yes
Ugui - no
Bayertaa - thank you (lit: with happiness)
Bayertala - goodbye (get a speaker to give you pronunciation help, it's about impossible to Romanize)
Joyo - bathroom
Ger - home/circular tent
Shar Peev - lager beer (lit. yellow beer)
Har Peev - dark beer
Ulaan -- red
Ulaan Baatar -- Red Hero (the name of the capital city)
Chiggaray - straight (direction)
Zun gar tish - turn left (gar is hand, lit. make left hand turn)
Barun gar tish - turn right
Tishay -- this way (with pointing a direction) or that one when making a selection.
Tugrug - the denomination of Mongolian currency
Khun - person (asiprated kh, almost like hoon)
Harkhoon - special/beloved person
Minii -- my/mine
Tahnii -- yours
Tend -- theirs
Nahoy - dog
Gulik - puppy
Chingis -- the proper Romanization of Genghis Khan, pronounced ching gis -- you'll earn points saying it properly.

When you enter someone's home (a tent is a home), you will be offered a drink. It's symbolic of hospitality. Always receive the bowl with both hand, and take a sip: it's probably got vodka in it, but it might also be tea, or Kumis, a fermented milk beer-ish drink. It's impolite to refuse it, but you also don't have to drink all of it.

When you arrive at someone's home, but before you enter, you can announce yourself by saying "Nahoy Horroroy" -- literally, "hold the dogs". You'll get smiles with that one. Don't use it more than once, though.

Mongols don't haggle. The price is the price. There will be a locals price and a Westerner price. Get used to it and don't bitch too much about it... the average Mongolian wage when we lived there 12 years ago was about $7 per day.

It's not a bad idea to bring small gifts. It used to be expected to bring liquor and cigarettes, but a) they're hard to carry on a bike, b) they're a public health problem. Candy is probably good. Matches or lighters are always appreciated away from the cities.

Many Mongols speak a second language. Older (50 +) might speak Russian. Younger (20 or less) there's a good chance they will speak English, and possibly Chinese or Korean. Because they're neighbors, they don't especially like China, but recognize they have a huge amount of economic power. Korea is a major economic partner.

Have fun! It's a wonderful, wonderful place.
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Old 07-12-2014, 10:23 AM   #4807
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Bayertaa - thank you (lit: with happiness)
Bayertala - goodbye (get a speaker to give you pronunciation help, it's about impossible to Romanize)

I have a program on my iPhone that has Mongolian on it. I have listened to both of those words dozens of times, yet I'm still having trouble with the pronunciation! It is a tough language to speak. Don't even get me started with reading it!!

Thanks for the great advice. I'm bringing candy and stickers for the kids(packs easy) and some lighters(will buy there) and batteries for the adults.

Cheers,

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Old 07-12-2014, 01:19 PM   #4808
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Yeah, they're nice guys. They have events at their shop every so often.

I used to like Klim gear. But since they released the $1300 ADV Rally jacket, their prices on everything have gone WAY up. $130 dirt pants are now $190-210. The Badlands and ADV jacket feel like I'm wearing three jackets over each other. Bulky and restrictive would be a major understatement.

Still I search for the mythical 4 season gear. Because when you're going ADV, you don't have room to pack extra gear. You don't have room for much more than camping gear and some basic tools, food, spare gloves, etc.
I bought the Latitude Jacket and the Overland Pants (from Adventure Design).
I find these are a good balance between my year round commute and the times I get out in the dirt or twisties.
I was tired of packing so much stuff. I can throw a light warm layer under either and be fine for 80% of my ride. It's only the days it gets down to around 25 or lower I start to think about electrics.
You just can't beat Gore-Tex.
Expensive for sure, but worth the money in my opinion.
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Old 07-12-2014, 01:48 PM   #4809
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I bought the Latitude Jacket and the Overland Pants (from Adventure Design).
I find these are a good balance between my year round commute and the times I get out in the dirt or twisties.
I was tired of packing so much stuff. I can throw a light warm layer under either and be fine for 80% of my ride. It's only the days it gets down to around 25 or lower I start to think about electrics.
You just can't beat Gore-Tex.
Expensive for sure, but worth the money in my opinion.

There is no description of the features of the Latitude and hasn't been for months. It just says it's an updated Misano. Apparently KLIM doesn't care to sell that jacket or the matching pants.
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Old 07-12-2014, 03:10 PM   #4810
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Hi all....

I am heading to Mongolia soon and just picked up a Garmin 78sc. This is my first GPS. I got a file from Walter Colebatch with his POIs, waypoints, etc. in Mongolia. Would anyone be willing to meet up and give me a quick tutorial on how to use it and how to load files, maps, etc?

My trip is coming up really soon. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Jeff G.
Hey Jeff, I'm up in Napa and have had around 6 or 7 Garmins. I'd be happy to go over it with you. Want to ride up and cruise the Valley for a lesson? You can see the Pirelli's again I bought from you.
PM me if interested, I'll shoot you a #.
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Old 07-12-2014, 04:55 PM   #4811
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There is no description of the features of the Latitude and hasn't been for months. It just says it's an updated Misano. Apparently KLIM doesn't care to sell that jacket or the matching pants.
The following features for the Latitude Jacket are listed here: http://www.klim.com/Latitude-Jacket-5146-001.html#58624


  • GORE-TEX® 2-LAYER PERFORMANCE SHELL
  • GUARANTEED TO KEEP YOU DRY®
  • D3O™ T5 EVO XT ELBOW AND SHOULDER PIECES INCLUDED (MEET AND/OR EXCEED LEVEL 1 LIMB PROTECTOR CE CERTIFICATION PREN16121-1:2011)
  • D3O™ BP XT PACK PIECE (CE CERTIFIED LEVEL 1 TO EN1621-2)
  • MISANO CORDURA® LAMINATE EXTERIOR IN MAIN BODY
  • 840D CORDURA® LAMINATE EXTERIOR IN HIGH ABRASION ZONES
  • HIGH-MOBILITY ACTIVE FIT PATTERNING
  • MAX FLOW VENTILATION: 5 PORTS
  • 2 ARM AND 2 PIT ZIPS INTAKES
  • 1 BACK EXHAUST
  • 6 EXTERNAL POCKETS [2 LONG CHEST “MAP” POCKETS, 3 CARGO POCKETS, 1 SLEEVE I.D. POCKET}
  • 4 INTERNAL POCKETS [2 ZIPPERED, 2 OPEN STASH}
  • 1 SECRET INTERNAL POCKET
  • MESH COMFORT LINER
  • JACKET-TO-PANT ZIPPER INTEGRATION SYSTEM
  • ZIPPERED WAIST/HIP EXPANSION PANEL
  • ADJUSTABLE WAIST CINCH STRAPS
  • 2 SLEEVE ADJUSTMENT STRAPS
  • LINED COMFORT COLLAR
  • VELCRO ADJUSTABLE WRIST CLOSURES
  • INDUSTRIAL GRADE 3M SCOTCHLITE™ REFLECTIVE PANELS AND TRIM
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Old 07-12-2014, 06:01 PM   #4812
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I have an older Latitude jacket I really like. I upgraded it with the
newer D30 armor recently. Like M N B says though a four season jacket
is still on the horizon.

The Latitude is great in cold, normal, warm temps but not what you want
to spend your day in when its 90 - 100 degrees plus out.
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Old 07-13-2014, 01:25 AM   #4813
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It is a tough language to speak. Don't even get me started with reading it!!

Thanks for the great advice.
Yep, it sure is a tough language. Very old, very peculiar grammar (agglutinative, i.e. all the grammar takes place with endings on nouns and verbs). And, there are only about 2 million native speakers, so it's hard to practice.

Unless you're up to speed with Cyrillic, you won't be reading much Mongolian, and even then, there are 2 additional characters beyond the Russian alphabet which was added to represent sounds not used in Slavic languages!

Mongolia is one of my favorite places, and I guess I am a bit of a cheerleader for Mongolia. My wife and I want to go back some day.

What is the name of of the Mongolian language app?
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Old 07-13-2014, 10:02 PM   #4814
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Alameda County Sheriff's dual sport training for civilians

Yesterday I spent 8 hours in the hot sun taking a civilian Dual Sport Training Class offered by the Alameda County (California) Sheriff's Office. I can't say enough about this class for helping a rusty old guy learn and practice some riding skills. I rode my own DR but the other 6 or 7 students all chose to rent one of the school bikes for $50. They were all DR650's, shod with D606's but otherwise stock, although many bent footpegs, missing turn signals etc. All were ex-patrol bikes with about 10K miles, and are used for police/agency and civilian training. Lots of clutch slipping, brake locking, and LOTS of tipovers on both pavement and dirt. The instructors told us the bikes are just bulletproof. Well, not literally, and in fact that's one of the topics of the officer training (using the bike as shelter from fire) but we didn't get into it in the civilian class.

We started with pavement drills, then moved to the dirt, hundreds of acres to play in. If you've watched the TV show Mythbusters, this is where they blow things up. Two students came all the way from San Diego (400+ miles) but the rest of us were local. If you're in the area, or want to take a nice ride out here, I'd highly recommend the class.
https://www.sheriffacademy.com/class.php?id=107

The web site says you have to ride your own bike but is being corrected - there mare enough rental DR's for all students.

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Old 07-13-2014, 10:43 PM   #4815
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Yesterday I spent 8 hours in the hot sun taking a civilian Dual Sport Training Class offered by the Alameda County (California) Sheriff's Office. ...
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Wow, didn't know about this. I took their civilian motorcycle (street) course about 5 years ago--very worthwhile. We got to use their trainer KZP1000's and learned some very useful skills.

Highly recommended.
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