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Old 01-08-2010, 10:56 AM   #691
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...With no experience to 'extreme 4x4' I see the air intake is above the roof to allow water travel.
But how deep can these things go...
Common assumption is that the snorkel is high for water traversing.... but its not. The Snorkel is high to get good air in a convoy under dusty conditions. This way air intake is much more out of the dust caused by the person in front of them.

I had my Unimog 404 in 3.5 feet of water without issue. The Landrovers I was with were floating. I had 2" taller tires (39") than stock. Also had 1.5" body lift to accommodate the diesel transplanted into it. Cab door was at about my 5'8" shoulder height. Mog went thru with out a care in the world.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:17 AM   #692
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No need to state the obvious and repeat but this has been (and continues) a great RR.
Like others have said it opens my eyes to how much I need to learn.

Sorry for the off topic question.
With no experience to 'extreme 4x4' I see the air intake is above the roof to allow water travel.
But how deep can these things go before they float? Or do you hold your breath and open the windows?
With Rovers, you never need to open a window. The water simply pours in, then back out when you make the other bank.

Check this for an alternative answer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1T7j_PIhew

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Old 01-08-2010, 11:27 AM   #693
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Isn't it time for some more bikini pics?
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:32 AM   #694
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Towards The North end of Lake Baikal

It was 2:15pm when we shook hands with the Poles and continued on our merry way. There was still 130km to Novy Uoyan. That was the start of the official road ... a road that is properly maintained and even according to rumour, asphalt between Novy Uoyan as far as Lake Baikal. I wanted to get to Baikal tonight and told the guys to put the heads down and motor!.

The Severomuisk Tunnel took 27 years to build. While it was being built the BAM used an additional line that runs up and over a pass, and the road follows that old line. The line over the pass is still in place, presumably as a backup. The tunnel passes an earthquake zone so it make sense to have a backup. The entrance to the tunnel is behind these buildings, while the viaduct in the background is part of the back up line that runs over the pass.



The road over the pass was in excellent condition and I really wondered how the Poles in the 4WDs would cope. They had told me the road behind them was bad. Man are they in for a shock as to what lies ahead. I told them that they will need to use a few rail bridges - there is no way around it for at least two of the river crossings - the Kuanda River and the Olyokma River. (I didnt know then what I know now ... that Michal Rej is a Polish rally guru)



The road on to Novy Uoyan continued much like the road had been to Severomuisk. It was poor, but far better than most of the last few weeks and importantly all bridges were serviceable for light vehicles. We found the one broken bridge the Poles had talked about. It wasnt even broken! Just a little bent. Those boys are in for a tough few weeks.



The last rocky river crossing:


About 7pm we pulled into Novy Uoyan, a fuel station and the start of the 'prepared' road. We sniffed around for a hotel but were told there is none in town. That sealed it ... it was Severobaikalsk or bust tonight. We filled up and hit the asphalt road out of town. Sadly the asphalt only lasted 30km, but the dirt road after that was a graded gravel road. We needed to do as much of it as possible while the daylight allowed.

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Old 01-08-2010, 11:52 AM   #695
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What a beautiful place! It seems to me Russia could make a small fortune off tourists if they just had some infrastructure in place.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:58 AM   #696
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What a beautiful place! It seems to me Russia could make a small fortune off tourists if they just had some infrastructure in place.
infrastructure - aka the bane of ADV riders!

agreed - it would be good for them but bad for us
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Old 01-08-2010, 12:30 PM   #697
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What a beautiful place! It seems to me Russia could make a small fortune off tourists if they just had some infrastructure in place.
Well maybe updated infrastructure not the hold up. Creative thinking is.

A good mechanic.... a few Tatra's and Kamazes retrofitted into a rolling bunk house for a few families, or same idea but more passengers followed by one last one that is a field kitchen and trailer full of tents.

hmmmmmm.... with that in mind.

Adv. Bike riders tour. Bunch of bikes.... a Kamaz (better highway speeds) and a trailer. Kamaz is field kitchen and stuffed with tents. Pulls a long trailer emtpy. Trailer filled with bikes at necessary water crossings.

hmmmmm........ SIGN ME UP BABY!!!

Guy I bought my Unimog from did just this. My Mog was service/tent hauler truck. It followed his buddies motorcycle tour biz. thru the Siberian Desert
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Old 01-08-2010, 04:31 PM   #698
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Old 01-08-2010, 04:58 PM   #699
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I thought for a second that it was red wine you were drinking.... known the world over as a girls drink...and carries 3 demerits on the hardcore bikers scale for every glass consumed(except when drank having stormed a French castle to rape an pillage the locals, and to annoy the locals a bit more just pop in a few ice cubes in it....that'll soften their cough)....but then I realised its probably the blood of a wild boar which you guys killed with your bare hands and then used its carcass to lure several polar bears which you then karate chopped in the neck, skinned them and used the furs as bum cushions on the road.

Anyway.... this report and you lads rule all.... now go get yourselves a couple of flaggens of cider....:-)
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Old 01-08-2010, 05:56 PM   #700
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What a beautiful place! It seems to me Russia could make a small fortune off tourists if they just had some infrastructure in place.

Know how to make a small fortune in adventure tourism? Start with a large one.
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Old 01-08-2010, 06:25 PM   #701
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:16 PM   #702
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Know how to make a small fortune in adventure tourism? Start with a large one.
boy am I dense today Dumb mee..... toook me several times going... hmmm.. "start with a large adventure first .... "start with big fortune first..."

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Old 01-08-2010, 08:58 PM   #703
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Know how to make a small fortune in adventure tourism? Start with a large one.
That goes for a lot of businesses!

Colebatch,

I met Eric Haws back about '92 I think, and saw his slide show on his Trans-Siberian ride. I don't recall him calling the road by any particular name. Was it the BAM road that he was on? I recall in his pictures and some video that the insects where he was were literally in clouds. He said it was enough to drive someone insane, but other than a few references, you don't mention insects to a great extent, and your pictures are nothing like Eric's in that regard. Different roads, seasons, or...?

Excellent report, BTW, great pictures and I like your reports of interactions with the people you meet.
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:21 PM   #704
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I've been enjoying this RR for days with what time is allowed me, work(Sucks...) has been getting in the way.
I just want to thank all three of you guys this obviously has taken alot of time and effort to put together. Awesome photos with some of the best storytelling I have ever read!!!

You guys are my heros !!! Thanks again......
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:21 PM   #705
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Great RR. You guys are tough!
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