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Old 09-05-2013, 06:19 AM   #1
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Locking Pin- This could happen to you!

So there I was at a gas station in Tok, Alaska, right across the street from Fast Eddie's. After I filled up I put my key back in the ignition and IT WOULD NOT TURN! I tried my extra key, tried tapping it with a hammer, sprayed in a little WD-40, and it still would not turn. Luckily I was with Jeremy, a mechanically minded Canuck. He took off my handlebars, took out my steering damper, removed the ignition cylinder (thank goodness I had replaced those security bolts), then he took apart the ignition cylinder and found the problem. The little pin that is designed to lock your steering to the left was out of position and interfering with the tumblers. We got rid of the pin and Jeremy put the whole mess back together and adjusted my bars to my preference. Took him 30 minutes from start to finish. Needless to say I was grateful. Thanks again Jeremy!
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:48 AM   #2
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What bike was that?

And what do you mean about your having replaced the security bolts?
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:04 AM   #3
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Nice to have a mechanic on staff, or at least as a travelling companion.
Can you further illuminate the conditions when the "lock-pin" engaged ?
Was the handlebar in the full left, locked position ?
was the key cylinder turned full CCW to the LOCK position ?
How was the weather in TOK?
How long did it take to get service @ 'FAST' Eddies ?
Are you headed out through Dawson, or Whitehorse ?
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:31 PM   #4
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What bike was that?

And what do you mean about your having replaced the security bolts?
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The ignition switch ass'y is retained by a pair of 8mm-1.25 pitch x 40mm length capscrews with a very odd 5 spline internal drive, and a 'post' in the middle, to block the driver bit from entering.
Really silly business, as the bolts are quickly and easily removed with a common 7 inch vise grip locking plier.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:55 PM   #5
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What bike was that?

And what do you mean about your having replaced the security bolts?
What he said.
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Old 09-05-2013, 02:03 PM   #6
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The bike was a 2011 800GS with about 12k miles on the clock.
The handlebars were not locked to the left. I have never actually used that function. So of course the key was simply in the off position, not turned all the way to the locking position.
I tell everyone that I could have repaired it myself, but it would have taken two days and I would have broken six other things and lost about four bolts.
The weather in Tok was tolerable that day. On the way back it wasn't as nice, raining and about 47 Fahrenheit.
On the way back I went to Haines Junction and then to Haynes to the ferry.
Fast Eddie's was pretty fast.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:04 PM   #7
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Thanks for the heads up.
I have just now removed those TamperResistant fasteners, with my handy Vice Grip locking plier, and replaced them with a pair of normal Internal Torx bolts.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:16 PM   #8
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The ignition switch ass'y is retained by a pair of 8mm-1.25 pitch x 40mm length capscrews with a very odd 5 spline internal drive, and a 'post' in the middle, to block the driver bit from entering.
Really silly business, as the bolts are quickly and easily removed with a common 7 inch vise grip locking plier.
Tamper Proof Torx. Tool available at your hardware store.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:20 PM   #9
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harbor freight sells the whole set for cheap

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Old 09-05-2013, 11:54 PM   #10
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The steering lock bolts- and they're used in German cars too- are FIVE spline, not the normal SIX.

http://www.amazon.com/Silverhill-Poi...s=5-point+torx
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:32 AM   #11
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With the advantage of 20/20 hindsight do you think that lubricating or otherwise dinking around with the "exposed" end of the locking pin might have helped?
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:28 PM   #12
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JR, If you go to MAX BMW and look under IGNITION SWITCH AND MOUNTING PARTS (#51) you can see the part they call the steering lock housing. But I don't see anything in that picture that looks like the pin Jeremy removed. I will try to get him to weigh in. pk
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Old 09-06-2013, 04:08 PM   #13
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Thanks ... yeah ... I see the part you are talking about ... very odd
and hopefully RARE failure ...
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