My r90 restoration. - Page 5

blaine.hale · 01-15-2010, 09:12 AM

Thanks Chrome, I think that may be what I am going with for the lining. Currently there is no lining in my new tank, just very very slight rust.

Few questions for you guys about resources.
I am definitely putting on Ohlins rear shocks. Anyone know a better/cheaper resource then : http://www.jcmotors.com/p-13808-hlin...0rt-r100s.aspx

What do you guys think about dual sparking, is it worth it?

What starter do yall recommend? Is valeo thrustworthy?

Bigger Al · 01-15-2010, 09:20 AM

If you're planning to buy another starter, I'd give this a serious look.

http://www.motoelekt.com/starter.htm

datchew · 01-15-2010, 12:50 PM

[quote=blaine.hale]

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaine.hale

What starter do yall recommend? Is valeo thrustworthy?

Originals = no.
new ones = yes.
Call John and discuss with him. He has a good reputation.
http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/

The old ones had glued in magnets that eventually (um, 20 years?) fell off and killed the starter. The new ones are wired into place, are lighter, use less juice, produce more torque than bosch and they're around $180 brand new. I have one. Love it.

The thing Rick @ motorrad sells is about twice the price and some folks love it. I have no experience with it, but I would recommend Rick to anyone. Also good reputation.

bgoodsoil · 01-15-2010, 09:05 PM

Rick has the Nippondenso. It's the starter that comes from a Toyota pick-up truck but has a different gear to mesh with your flywheel. Never heard a bad thing about them but they cost twice as much as a Valeo.

They are both lighter than the stock Bosch and draw less amps. I haven't read anything showing that the Nippondenso is better than the Valeo at all, much less twice as good.

blaine.hale · 01-15-2010, 09:14 PM

Hmm, paying twice as much for something that will do the same job.
The valeo sounds like it will suffice. If not I will have my crust Bosch back up.
Basically I'd like to replace anything Bosch on this bike

bgoodsoil · 01-15-2010, 09:21 PM

The stock Bosch parts have definitely been surpassed by better options. An old bike with modern electrics makes me happy.

I borrowed a r90s for several weekends. It had Del'orto carbs and dual plugs. I guess technically it was faster than my bone stock r80 but I think saying that it's a 'lighter shade of slow' is more accurate. It got worse gas mileage.

Dual Plugging threads can sound like oil arguments. You'll have people on both sides argue 'til they're blue in the face. Most will agree though--it's not easy to get it right. You can always do it later if you want to. It may be a better idea to wait on that one.

bgoodsoil · 01-15-2010, 09:25 PM

When I got my Ohlins the cheapest place I could find was Kyle Racing. I paid $650 shipped for my mono-shock iirc.

http://www.shop.kyleusa.com/category...?categoryId=46

it's worth a call. Just because your shock isn't listed on their site doesn't mean they can't get it.

hardwaregrrl · 01-22-2010, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaine.hale

What do you guys think about dual sparking, is it worth it?

No. I had it done per advice from the person working on the bike. Honestly, I don't notice a different. The bike never pinged to begin with, and it has not made any difference in fuel efficiency. It actually was more efficient prior to the dual/plug, and its one more thing to think about when tuning. It was a waste of money for me and kind of a pain in the ass, the bike hasn't really been the same since. No. I don't think its necessary.

blaine.hale · 01-30-2010, 08:37 AM

Who has two thumbs and is picking his frame up in a few hours? This guy.

Beater · 01-30-2010, 08:38 AM

Schwing!

Wirespokes · 01-30-2010, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardwaregrrl

No. I had it done per advice from the person working on the bike. Honestly, I don't notice a different. The bike never pinged to begin with, and it has not made any difference in fuel efficiency. It actually was more efficient prior to the dual/plug, and its one more thing to think about when tuning. It was a waste of money for me and kind of a pain in the ass, the bike hasn't really been the same since. No. I don't think its necessary.

It's really only necessary for high compression motors - which the ST isn't. At this point, it would probably be a good idea to increase your compression ratio to get the benefits: more power, more mpg, and even better starting when cold.

blaine.hale · 01-30-2010, 05:10 PM

ka-bam!

crazydrummerdude · 01-30-2010, 05:57 PM

Nice.

You keeping the time lapse going at all?

bgoodsoil · 01-30-2010, 06:20 PM

fresh powdercoat is a thing of beauty

Boojum · 01-30-2010, 08:06 PM

That's a Peach

01-15-2010, 09:20 AM	#62
Bigger Al Still a stupid tire guy Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Auburn, CA Oddometer: 7,270	If you're planning to buy another starter, I'd give this a serious look. http://www.motoelekt.com/starter.htm __________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

01-15-2010, 09:05 PM	#64
bgoodsoil Dare to be Stupid Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Oddometer: 3,793	Rick has the Nippondenso. It's the starter that comes from a Toyota pick-up truck but has a different gear to mesh with your flywheel. Never heard a bad thing about them but they cost twice as much as a Valeo. They are both lighter than the stock Bosch and draw less amps. I haven't read anything showing that the Nippondenso is better than the Valeo at all, much less twice as good. __________________ '85 BMW r80G/S--Another G/S on the road--Central America on a Shoestring--Nova Scotia on a Shoestring Proud SmugMug User Support ADV: Don't give those cheap bums your discount code

01-15-2010, 09:21 PM	#66
bgoodsoil Dare to be Stupid Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Oddometer: 3,793	The stock Bosch parts have definitely been surpassed by better options. An old bike with modern electrics makes me happy. I borrowed a r90s for several weekends. It had Del'orto carbs and dual plugs. I guess technically it was faster than my bone stock r80 but I think saying that it's a 'lighter shade of slow' is more accurate. It got worse gas mileage. Dual Plugging threads can sound like oil arguments. You'll have people on both sides argue 'til they're blue in the face. Most will agree though--it's not easy to get it right. You can always do it later if you want to. It may be a better idea to wait on that one. __________________ '85 BMW r80G/S--Another G/S on the road--Central America on a Shoestring--Nova Scotia on a Shoestring Proud SmugMug User Support ADV: Don't give those cheap bums your discount code

01-15-2010, 09:25 PM	#67
bgoodsoil Dare to be Stupid Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Oddometer: 3,793	When I got my Ohlins the cheapest place I could find was Kyle Racing. I paid $650 shipped for my mono-shock iirc. http://www.shop.kyleusa.com/category...?categoryId=46 it's worth a call. Just because your shock isn't listed on their site doesn't mean they can't get it. __________________ '85 BMW r80G/S--Another G/S on the road--Central America on a Shoestring--Nova Scotia on a Shoestring Proud SmugMug User Support ADV: Don't give those cheap bums your discount code

01-30-2010, 08:38 AM	#70
Beater Scope Creep's Victim Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Decatur, GA, USA Oddometer: 2,212	Schwing! __________________ Fred '85 R80RT G/Sified '91 R100GS Bumblebee Airhead Zen: Ride-Maintain-Repair-Ride On.

01-15-2010, 09:12 AM	#61
blaine.hale ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, Ga Oddometer: 2,294	Thanks Chrome, I think that may be what I am going with for the lining. Currently there is no lining in my new tank, just very very slight rust. Few questions for you guys about resources. I am definitely putting on Ohlins rear shocks. Anyone know a better/cheaper resource then : http://www.jcmotors.com/p-13808-hlin...0rt-r100s.aspx What do you guys think about dual sparking, is it worth it? What starter do yall recommend? Is valeo thrustworthy?

01-15-2010, 09:14 PM	#65
blaine.hale ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, Ga Oddometer: 2,294	Hmm, paying twice as much for something that will do the same job. The valeo sounds like it will suffice. If not I will have my crust Bosch back up. Basically I'd like to replace anything Bosch on this bike

01-30-2010, 08:37 AM	#69
blaine.hale ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, Ga Oddometer: 2,294	Who has two thumbs and is picking his frame up in a few hours? This guy.

01-30-2010, 05:10 PM	#72
blaine.hale ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, Ga Oddometer: 2,294	ka-bam!

01-30-2010, 05:57 PM	#73
crazydrummerdude Wacky Bongo Boy Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Moore/OKC Oddometer: 6,917	Nice. You keeping the time lapse going at all? __________________ 1974 BMW R75/6, 1974 BMW R90/6, 1969 BMW R60/2 hack, 1929 Ford Model A, Metal casting, Part 2/Part 1 among others..

01-30-2010, 06:20 PM	#74
bgoodsoil Dare to be Stupid Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Oddometer: 3,793	fresh powdercoat is a thing of beauty __________________ '85 BMW r80G/S--Another G/S on the road--Central America on a Shoestring--Nova Scotia on a Shoestring Proud SmugMug User Support ADV: Don't give those cheap bums your discount code

01-30-2010, 08:06 PM	#75
Boojum I Miss the PartyBoss Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Ringgold, Ga.....Saaalute! Oddometer: 5,882	That's a Peach __________________ "I aint no ruff guy, aint no tuff guy. Don't get out much, and don't dress up fly" BMW's: 1999 GS 1100 "Work Horse", 1975 R90/6 "Black Betty", 92 R100 GSPD, 03 XR 650L with Farkles, KLR 250, 72 Honda CL-70

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