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Old 06-13-2013, 12:10 PM   #301
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:23 PM   #302
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That's an interesting positive side benefit of the Rekluse clutch. I'm still warming up to the thought of dropping that kind of cash on a Rekluse.
i did a bit of a write up here if you are thinking of getting one. i rarely revved the WR much with the higher gearing,

i did have issues with the clutch slipping if accelerating at lower revs in fourth of fifth. eventually had to get the heavier wedges... they wanted $100 for these and i kicked up a stink because the wording on their website claimed the clutch was full adjustable as is.... not that you needed to spend an extra $100 to achieve that! eventually they sent them out free and worked perfectly.

this was the basic kit, the more expensive ones come with the heavier wedges included.
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:17 AM   #303
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Hey guys, will I be disappointed with the WR on the highway after riding the DR for a few years?? With taller gearing of course and expect to be doing about 70/30 dirt to bitumen.
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:30 AM   #304
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On the highway?? Dunno. I hate every inch of black top.


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Old 06-16-2013, 09:06 AM   #305
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Hey guys, will I be disappointed with the WR on the highway after riding the DR for a few years?? With taller gearing of course and expect to be doing about 70/30 dirt to bitumen.
Well, compared to the DR, I'd say you'll be relatively pleased as long as you've geared it correctly. The WR tends to have a bit more raw natural power, in my opinion. But any 450 on the highway will be easily subject to the whimsy of the wind. Depending on the model...older steel frame, pre-2005/6 (?), or the newer aluminum frame...you'll likely get jostled around a bit. I have an '01 WR426 steel frame, and an '07 WR450 aluminum frame. They're both geared pretty tall for road speeds since the rally races I do occasionally call for that kind of gearing. Although I don't go so tall as to rob the low-end torque in the rougher stuff. The WR engines are beautifully powered in this regard. The steel frame is definitely better in a stiff breeze though. Keeps the bike steady at higher speeds due to the uptick in overall weight. But then I also run an oversized 3.7 gal dual-petcock tank which helps keep the c.o.g. low which also helps to stabilize the bike. And that's true on both of them.

Now of course neither of these, nor the DR 400/450 are a match for a good solid XR 650 for highway speeds. Some will likely argue my preference for the XR, but that's just my personal experience, I'm sure others in the 650 class have their own merits. But since this is a 450 forum, my preference would be for the WR. The DR just seems to be underpowered by comparison, especially if you'll be riding 70% dirt.

...just my 2cents and change
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:47 PM   #306
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Well, compared to the DR, I'd say you'll be relatively pleased as long as you've geared it correctly. The WR tends to have a bit more raw natural power, in my opinion. But any 450 on the highway will be easily subject to the whimsy of the wind. Depending on the model...older steel frame, pre-2005/6 (?), or the newer aluminum frame...you'll likely get jostled around a bit. I have an '01 WR426 steel frame, and an '07 WR450 aluminum frame. They're both geared pretty tall for road speeds since the rally races I do occasionally call for that kind of gearing. Although I don't go so tall as to rob the low-end torque in the rougher stuff. The WR engines are beautifully powered in this regard. The steel frame is definitely better in a stiff breeze though. Keeps the bike steady at higher speeds due to the uptick in overall weight. But then I also run an oversized 3.7 gal dual-petcock tank which helps keep the c.o.g. low which also helps to stabilize the bike. And that's true on both of them.

Now of course neither of these, nor the DR 400/450 are a match for a good solid XR 650 for highway speeds. Some will likely argue my preference for the XR, but that's just my personal experience, I'm sure others in the 650 class have their own merits. But since this is a 450 forum, my preference would be for the WR. The DR just seems to be underpowered by comparison, especially if you'll be riding 70% dirt.

...just my 2cents and change
The WR would let me ride everything instead of just 90% of terrain with the DR 650 and some of that dangerously because of the weight. At just 150lbs and 5' 7" the DR is a handfull. Hell, I'm even slower than B1 too!!
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Old 06-16-2013, 11:18 PM   #307
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What's the best choice for an aftermarket seat?? Going on a trip to Colorado soon and I need a seat that won't try to split me like a piece of firewood!
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Old 06-17-2013, 12:44 AM   #308
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Hell, I'm even slower than B1 too!!
geez, that's being unreasonably hard on yourself.
and watch your language too. you told me on the weekend that you never swear.

re: the aftermarket seat post, have you considered the dodgy brothers seat, Stlhooked? $30 worth of upholstery foam, black vinyl, and a staple gun.

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Old 06-17-2013, 07:35 AM   #309
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You won't be confused thinking you jumped on your KLR650 by accident when you ride the WR down the road. It's a dirtbike and you know it.
The minimum you should do to a WR is install a YZ or aftermarket silencer. These bikes have full race engines and in my opinion anything you do to calm it down makes them run like crap.
Balancing the wheels help things roll along a little smoother
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:49 AM   #310
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How long have you run the extra oil tank?
I feel the oil being run through the down tube acts like a oil cooler some. But more is better and our bikes really could use more oil capacity
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:17 AM   #311
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You won't be confused thinking you jumped on your KLR650 by accident when you ride the WR down the road. It's a dirtbike and you know it.
The minimum you should do to a WR is install a YZ or aftermarket silencer. These bikes have full race engines and in my opinion anything you do to calm it down makes them run like crap.
Balancing the wheels help things roll along a little smoother

yeah, the WR is definitely race-inspired by it's YZ breeding. not much difference between the two. the main one being the label "WR" itself. stands for 'wide ratio' and refers to the gearing. a little less wound up than the YZ, for the obvious difference in what you want from each. track (YZ), or the rest of the world (WR... or maybe ROTW? nah...guess that's too many letters). both of my WRs are street legal and run like bats outta hell. I've raced them both and they have yet to disappoint, for as much as I'm able to push them.

anyway, I totally agree with an aftermarket exhaust. or better yet, just uncork it. they breathe better that way. my 426 was uncorked when I got it. it's noisier than usual and ticks off the wife and neighbors, but it's legal.

I bought the 450 used and it already had an FMF (Q4?) pipe on it. it sounds great and runs pretty well, but I wanted more breathability so I also removed the silencer from this one. gives it a deeper, more vibrant rumble. still not as loud as the 426 stocker, but quiet enough to keep the wife and neighbors off my back.

The stock bikes have something called an AIS....Air Induction System...which is only on them because of the EPA. environmental legislation goes pretty deep so the U.S. has pretty stringent emissions requirements. because of this, we only import/sell bikes equipped with the emission control systems in place. most of the serious enthusiasts, however, like their bikes to perform better than stock, so we remove the AIS, silencer, snorkel, do 'grey wire' mods, etc. all in the name of 'uncorking'. here's a great link of all the stuff you can do to mod a WR 250/426/450 https://sites.google.com/site/yamahawr450fwr250f/.

good luck and happy uncorking. you can thank me later.

word of caution: if you're running carbs instead of FI, seek out an expert for fine tuning if you decide to uncork your machine. while it ultimately produces a 'good' outcome in terms of performance, it takes a little finesse to get jetting adjustments correct. with carbs you have to deal with altitude and climate. so when you essentially undo factory settings on the carb by uncorking (i.e. introducing more air to the system) you have to compensate for it with a few tweaks to get the air/fuel mix right. just a matter of knowing which ones work. but there are plenty of resources available to help with this. then again, if you're a knucklehead like me, you can always learn it the old fashioned way...trial by fire. stumble, grunt, intrigue, destruction, tantrum, education, experiment, enlightenment, vroooooooom!
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:25 AM   #312
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@0405canvet....

just realized you're in OZ. perhaps you can clarify my previous comment about emissions devices on US vs. non-US bikes. do you guys have similar requirements to the US to where stock bikes have strict emission control systems attached? just curious.
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Old 06-17-2013, 12:47 PM   #313
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How long have you run the extra oil tank?
I feel the oil being run through the down tube acts like a oil cooler some. But more is better and our bikes really could use more oil capacity
i sold the WR a few years back so i'm just a lurker now. probably clocked up two or three thousand km with that setup.

it would act a bit like an oil cooler but not sure to what extent. if it had fins this would definitely help as cooling is all based on maximizing the surface area to volume ratio. keep in mind though, that where it is mounted restricts the flow of air through the right hand radiator which may offset any cooling gains.

i was worried about the bike overheating but it never proved to be an issue, at least with the open trails and adventure riding i was doing.
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:46 AM   #314
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For the aussies in this group, can I make a WR450F street legal in Queensland? Thinking of bringing one in a crate from the US when I move back. Want to ride it on Fraser Island, but I heard they banned dirt bikes outright so can only ride "legal" (read "tax grab") bikes now there.

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Old 06-18-2013, 01:37 AM   #315
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WR450f's come compliance plated from the factory for Aus, there are some US imports that do not but very very rare. I imagine making a non aus compliance plated one road legal would be difficult, but nothing that money couldn't do. They are very popular here and many for sale, might be better of just buying one


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For the aussies in this group, can I make a WR450F street legal in Queensland? Thinking of bringing one in a crate from the US when I move back. Want to ride it on Fraser Island, but I heard they banned dirt bikes outright so can only ride "legal" (read "tax grab") bikes now there.
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