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Old 01-20-2010, 10:52 AM   #31
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real world question

Does having ABS reduce insurance cost on a MC?

If yes, then I think it may be mandatory
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Old 01-20-2010, 11:04 AM   #32
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Laugh Off road forgetting abs

I have abs on my f800gs.. and I must admit I have had some close calls
when I forgot to turn it off going into the dirt from the tarmac... I just read the way to pull the seat and unplug it.. I did not know about this.. but I wish
there was a way on the bike to toggle the setting so I could put abs on when
wanted versus having it on all the time and having to switch it off... So if you get abs try and remember to turn it off.. I forget all the time!! Though having it on the tarmac is great!!
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:54 PM   #33
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great checklist
i also check oil, tires, blinkers headlight
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Old 01-21-2010, 05:08 PM   #34
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Does having ABS reduce insurance cost on a MC?

If yes, then I think it may be mandatory
Not with State Farm. But glad I have it even though I don't think it has saved my but YET.
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Old 01-22-2010, 07:47 AM   #35
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25 years of riding without ABS, F800 is my first with it. Have noticed it kick in a couple times that I would have more than likely laid the bike down. On a 460+ pound bike, it's a fine feature. Worth every penny.
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Old 01-22-2010, 01:05 PM   #36
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25 years of riding without ABS, F800 is my first with it. Have noticed it kick in a couple times that I would have more than likely laid the bike down. On a 460+ pound bike, it's a fine feature. Worth every penny.
25 years of riding without ABS and you were ok. Then get an bike with ABS and twice you would have more than likely laid it down without the ABS.

Have you changed your riding style because of the ABS?
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Old 01-22-2010, 02:27 PM   #37
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A BS story

He never said he hadn't crashed in 25 years......


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25 years of riding without ABS and you were ok. Then get an bike with ABS and twice you would have more than likely laid it down without the ABS.

Have you changed your riding style because of the ABS?
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:12 PM   #38
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I defenitely think that the 800 should be bought with ABS.

But at the same time I must say I'm not 100% satisified with the feel of the ABS on my 800. I actually like the ABS on my 650GS thumper better. I allways has knobbies mounted and I think the ABS on the 800 don't really like those tires. Even on dry tarmac I stop the bike faster/shorter without ABS. But in real life You do not have the same control as during a controlled test and then I think the ABS pays off.

To all of You who want's to disable the ABS for You dirt weekends it's just to unattach the connector/plug under the seat. I allways do this since otherwise I often forget to switch the ABS off after a break.
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:27 PM   #39
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I think of ABS the same as I think of my pistol.

Better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:16 PM   #40
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Abs

I've heard that a skilled marksman can fire a bullet a shorter distance without a pistol......

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I think of ABS the same as I think of my pistol.

Better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:28 AM   #41
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I don't have a GS yet, but have ABS on my Xmoto, it give me confidence in the rain (by knowing it would), even though I only felt it in action once in an emergency situation (on dry). But I found it causing more troubles on dry. Like the current recall on Toyotas, I found it refuse to engage in a combination of situations: bumps, too much weight transferring to the front, once or twice leaning. It would either click click, or worse, can't pull the lever in. And most of the time I experience these were times I really needed the brakes. Imagine following a car onto a bumpy stretch of the road, he slows down but you can't, happens alot here on the bad streets of NYC...

So I guess it's not a fool proof switch, you still have to use caution to compensate. The only time braking really saved my life, I was on a non ABS bike and I braked so hard the back came up we stopped a hair to her bumper. The only time I actually went down was in the rain on my ABS bike cause I felt confident (low sided in a corner, not ABS's fault).
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:36 AM   #42
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Abs

Was riding a rental for a week without ABS. Sure missed it when the roads got wet and slippery. Had a near panic stop and when I grabbed a handful of front brake it locked momentarily.....
When I get the occasional activation when braking over a bump it has never bothered me. I can brake so much harder with more confidence that I'm still stopping sooner.
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Old 03-13-2010, 12:03 PM   #43
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Read this article, written almost 20 years ago when ABS systems were not nearly so sophisticated as they are today:

http://www.ibmwr.org/prodreview/abstests.html

Then buy an F800GS with ABS.

You can always turn it off when you don't want it.

I've had bikes with ABS since 1992 or so (starting with a Yamaha GTS1000A) and ride quite a lot. The only time I've had the ABS kick in unexpectedly was on some wet cobblestones in a village in the Italian Alps in a rainstorm. So that's just once in 18 years.

But I love knowing that should some brain-dead cager run a red light as I'm about to enter the intersection, I can just hammer the brakes and use the majority of my attention trying to figure out what other options I have...
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Old 03-13-2010, 02:23 PM   #44
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To all of You who want's to disable the ABS for You dirt weekends it's just to unattach the connector/plug under the seat. I allways do this since otherwise I often forget to switch the ABS off after a break.
No need to muck around with wires to disable it for a days dirty activites. You can change the startup default to off by starting the bike with the button pressed, the default startup ABS off/on will then be the reverse of what it was before.

See this thread http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=552509
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Old 03-13-2010, 04:06 PM   #45
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No need to muck around with wires to disable it for a days dirty activites. You can change the startup default to off by starting the bike with the button pressed, the default startup ABS off/on will then be the reverse of what it was before.
I tried that trick the last time I rode off road. Didn't work for me, no matter how many times I tried, nor how many variations on that theme I attempted. Every time I switched off the ignition, the next time I switched it on the ABS was in the standard default mode.

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