A n00b goes racing

[eatpasta]

Originally Posted by RAZR

not to change your mind ..... BUT ...... i would say lean towards a 525.
a little more torque and better for full out desert where the 450 is better for tighter tracks. same bike, shorter stroke.

both are great.

true, but if im going for a lighter, smaller bike. why not get the lighter, smaller bike? also, you haven't seen the stuff they send us through, Charles..... you wouldn't believe how technical some of this stuff is.

FF to 5 minutes....



Plus he is interested in a trading for my SV plus some cash....

[garfey]

Originally Posted by eatpasta

crap..... pm me.... ill looking into getting rid of the SV. I still need to really take one out and ride it to see if its worth all this trouble.

... and speaking of the economics of racing versus going to a NASCAR race ... :

[MotoMike]

Originally Posted by garfey

... and speaking of the economics of racing versus going to a NASCAR race ... :

Slightly different. He is a participant, getting out there and doing it, not someone living vicariously by spending stupid amounts of money just to watch a race.

[airborndad]

Originally Posted by MotoMike

Slightly different. He is a participant, getting out there and doing it, not someone living vicariously by spending stupid amounts of money just to watch a race.

Its cheaper to race D-37 than to watch a Nascar race + 1000 X more satisfying

[eatpasta]

Originally Posted by garfey

... and speaking of the economics of racing versus going to a NASCAR race ... :

Its a little different for normal people who dont get everything handed to them

also, I bet you the $100 that's in my wallet that there isn't a NASCAR driver out there that could complete a "beginner" loop of a D.37 race..... (former professional motorcycle races aside)

thirdly, I would rather spend $150 of my hard earned money beating the crap out of myself in a desert race than spend that same amount sitting in the stands watching a bunch of identical, antiquated "American cars" that are only designed to turn left.
How people latch on to a sport so far from reality, I haven't the slightest clue.

[KZJohn]

NASCAR is great! When I can't sleep I just turn on The NASCAR Channel,(SpeedTV), and wake up refereshed!

[eatpasta]

if you guys wanna see what the last race was SUPPOSED to look like.....

oh and a CLASSIC moment in desert racing - watch or FF to 3.56

[Strong Bad]

Originally Posted by eatpasta

also, I bet you the $100 that's in my wallet that there isn't a NASCAR driver out there that could complete a "beginner" loop of a D.37 race..... (former professional motorcycle races aside).

Jimmy Johnson wasn't a pro and he rides. Rubby Gordon raced minis & mx, I'm betting he could drag his lard arse around a beginner's loop.

[CramerTV]

Originally Posted by eatpasta

true, but if im going for a lighter, smaller bike. why not get the lighter, smaller bike?

I believe the 450 and 530/525 are identical except for displacement - same weight, same ... everything except piston rod length. Like Charles said, only the stroke is different. Don't quote me though.

Regardless, did you get something?

[garfey]

Finally watched that video all the way thru, eatpasta. Mang! If I saw terrain like that I'd just pack up my gear, head home, and probably think about taking up sailing again. No, Wait! I'm retirded and pensioned off now. Forget sailing!

(Anybody wanna buy four brandy-new 20yo double linestoppers, a hand-held anemometer, some snatch blocks and trunnion blocks, a bunch of SS shackles, lifeline turnbuckles and pelican hooks, a swaging tool, and a halyard winch? Oh yeah, I almost forgot, there's also a suit of sails for a 14' catamaran under the bed in the front room that I got in'76 and have never used except for sunshades on camping trips.)

[eatpasta]

Originally Posted by garfey

Finally watched that video all the way thru, eatpasta. Mang! If I saw terrain like that I'd just pack up my gear, head home

its interesting when you come to an obstacle that you know you cant do, but you just saw the guy in front of you do it, and you know there is a freight train of guys behind you that want to pass. So you do it anyways and you make it fine.
It makes you totally rethink what you cant do, and raises your ceiling. Its a nice feeling. I go over stuff now at 40 that I used to pucker at in first.

I love racing.

[eatpasta]

Originally Posted by CramerTV

I believe the 450 and 530/525 are identical except for displacement - same weight, same ... everything except piston rod length. Like Charles said, only the stroke is different. Don't quote me though.

Regardless, did you get something?

Nah, both bikes sold already!

and if thats teh case im definitely getting the 525. ALSO, I just looked at the specs! the 525 is only 20 lbs lighter than the 650R! Why the hell would I get another bike to save just 20 lbs?!

[Wyobrew]

I am certainly no authority on bikes, but I will attest to the significant weight difference in "feel" of my 250 XC vs my 450 EXC and those bikes are 25lbs apart. I used to ride highly modified snowmobiles and 20-25lbs reduction was a huge difference on a 370# sled. Take that weight away from a 280lb bike and you will feel it. (and appreciate it)

Doug

[eatpasta]

Originally Posted by Wyobrew

I am certainly no authority on bikes, but I will attest to the significant weight difference in "feel" of my 250 XC vs my 450 EXC and those bikes are 25lbs apart. I used to ride highly modified snowmobiles and 20-25lbs reduction was a huge difference on a 370# sled. Take that weight away from a 280lb bike and you will feel it. (and appreciate it)

Doug

what it boils down to is that I need to take a 525 for a proper flogging.... in the daylight

[eatpasta]

Erik Kudla's race video from last weekend..... at 2.12 you can see my first crash for the day....

awesome

oh and mike is in there too!