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Old 02-01-2010, 05:07 AM   #16
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Sorry I haven't been following all the 690 threads, but why exactly do I need these bolts for my 690? What is the problem you're trying to solve?
When your lower tank bushings get loose, the Stock Upper Tank Bolts will BREAK.
The fuel tank which is the subframe, & all of the weight on the seat is
depending on these 2 lower bushings & these 2 upper bolts the hold it
in place.
An agressive / heavier rider puts alot of stress on these 4 points.
The updated lower tank bushings from KTM is NOT a Permanent Fix
I made my own ALUMINUM Lower Bushings.
Im glad we now have a stronger grade upper tank bolt.

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Old 02-02-2010, 01:55 AM   #17
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Thanks Brown dog i could not have put it better
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Old 02-02-2010, 05:44 AM   #18
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When your lower tank bushings get loose, these Upper Tank Bolts will BREAK.
Dog - So you're saying if you just keep the original bolts there is no need for this $65 set? It looks like this is a nice product. I love having a trick part here or there, even if only because its trick.
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Old 02-02-2010, 03:33 PM   #19
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Dog - So you're saying if you just keep the original bolts there is no need for this $65 set? It looks like this is a nice product.
No, Not at all. Im saying the stock bolt WILL eventually break due to
a weak upper bolt & the lower bushings getting way too much looseness in them.
Sorry, Im not much on the computer or with words.
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:41 PM   #20
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Im saying the stock bolt WILL eventually break
Interesting theory. Have any real proof?

Just because a couple extremely overloaded bikes, with unmaintained hardware, that doesn't constitute proof.

That said, I still love the product. It looks great.
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:44 PM   #21
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Interesting theory. Have any real proof?

Just because a couple extremely overloaded bikes, with unmaintained hardware, that doesn't constitute proof.
Mine isnt overweighted. I dont even have a Rear rack. No luggage.
I weigh 190 lbs. I've been thru numerous lower bushings to prevent
the slop & i've broken the stock left upper tank bolt. Thats proof to me.
I agree with you that ALOT of these pics on here are OVERWEIGHTED
carrying all that gear that people think they cant do without.
Bobzilla has had upper tank bolts break before too.
Im not trying to argue, proove a point or being ugly. Please dont take me
the wrong way. Im just stating my experience with what i've seen
Guys, Post up if you've had upper tank bolts to break & lets get a count
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:11 PM   #22
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Im not trying to argue, proove a point or being ugly.
Nor am I. I'm honestly trying to just understand, and see if this is a real problem.
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Old 02-02-2010, 08:30 PM   #23
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I broke a few bolts( last count 6 i think) and the last time had <5 lbs on the rear rack. Im making a set of bushings out of aluminum for the lower and a bushing out of aluminum for the top, slightly shorter than stock shoulder to tighten the polomyer and a grade 8 socket head cap screw to bolt the upper . So far this is the last item on mine I feel needs correcting.
I am over weight and broken down so I dont stand as much as I should but still slam the rocks and whoops. I am sure that my fat ass on the seat contributes to the breaking of bolts but this bike is suspossed to be for 2 up.
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Old 02-03-2010, 03:03 AM   #24
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Lets just say cheap insurance ,Eg your in the middle of baja (my case simpson dez) break a stock bolt two miles later the other your left stranded couple of these in you bum bag or spares 5 minutes your away again.

Anyway half way through the next batch be ready for posting on monday
I will contact those that have sent PM's

Have to got through the numbers but about five sets left of batch 2.
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:52 PM   #25
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I broke a few bolts( last count 6 i think) ...Im making a set of bushings out of aluminum for the lower...
This will fix your bushing problems
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:44 PM   #26
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Reading through the posts(as I should've) I think it is safe to assume there will always be a design flaw of some sorts, does not matter what bike. Best learn from others(brown dog) experience (mac) and prevent rather than cure. What harm can a beefier bolt do anyways. JUST DO IT !!!
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Old 02-06-2010, 04:31 PM   #27
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OK I got it from Brown Dogs post. Thanks BD.
Your Welcome. Glad to help a ADV'r / KTM'r out any time
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:52 AM   #28
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Next batch is ready i will be contacting those with orders .
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:34 AM   #29
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If there are any sets not spoken for yet - count me in!

For those of us who don't have the skills/equipment to make the lower bushing , is anyone willing to make/sell some of those?
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Old 02-09-2010, 03:09 PM   #30
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Bolts are cool... I may need a set....

So what I'm hearing is that the lower bushing get loose, causeing stress on the upper bolt which then breaks... therefore stronger bolts are needed. No problem.

But what about the lower bushings? This sounds like a bigger problem. Does the hole get rounded out and stretched? How often does this happen? I'm concerned as I have a check in hand to drop off at the dealer tomorrow for a 690R....
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