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Old 10-24-2013, 09:32 AM   #3016
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Depending on what the tank is made of use mechanical baffles
Good point. I wonder if you could set up a series of cells witihn a tank. Perhaps even molded in...

BTW, unless it's factory voodoo secrets, has anyone had/seen a thread on the WR/YZ build or part swaps as mentioned above?
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:03 AM   #3017
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I have a 25 liter aluminum subframe tank for my Husqvarna made by Pedro Prata, it has baffle plates in it for strength and to control flow. I have run the bike from full to empty multiple times in varying conditions and I have yet to feel the fuel slosh around in any way that effects the handling or stability of the bike. I have noticed when the tank is full the bike doesn't want to turn as well in high speed turns. With a little shift of body weight forward it is noticeably better.
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:19 PM   #3018
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Good point. I wonder if you could set up a series of cells witihn a tank. Perhaps even molded in...

BTW, unless it's factory voodoo secrets, has anyone had/seen a thread on the WR/YZ build or part swaps as mentioned above?
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:37 PM   #3019
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Honda and Radikal, what is the connection.
on shirt and pants of Sam
but what is it, this brand put their name on rally clothing?
http://www.radikal-equipmotor.com/cr...l-company.html
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or is it for the locks.


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Old 10-24-2013, 03:38 PM   #3020
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Honda and Radikal, what is the connection.
on shirt and pants of Sam
but what is it, this brand put their name on rally clothing?
http://www.radikal-equipmotor.com/cr...l-company.html
street bikes stuff sliders
or is it for the locks.


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It has more to do with this riding gear than the machinery
http://www.radikalracing.com.ar/

I've been trying to get a hold on them for some jackets, even a direct contact, but no answers. Anybody had any luck with them?
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:59 PM   #3021
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It has more to do with this riding gear than the machinery
http://www.radikalracing.com.ar/

I've been trying to get a hold on them for some jackets, even a direct contact, but no answers. Anybody had any luck with them?

There site is starting very slow, so contact should take some time what a horror site.

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Old 10-24-2013, 07:08 PM   #3022
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Some guys were talking about tyres (or tires ) and HRC - here's a good link

http://moto.mpora.com/race-reports/m...the-dakar.html
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:34 PM   #3023
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BTW, unless it's factory voodoo secrets, has anyone had/seen a thread on the WR/YZ build or part swaps as mentioned above?
The various YZ/WR motors are second only to the RFS for Mr. Potatoheadability, IMO. Gearboxes fit across a decade of 250/450, forward motor and back, etc. They got it right out of the gate, those things are pretty durable!

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I recall one of the criticisms of the Honda that Quinn Cody rode (and crashed spactacularly) in Dakar a couple of years ago was the worry that all that [fuel] weight hanging out back creates a pendulum effect if you get a weave/wiggle on...
I'm not sure its exactly a criticism, as you have to put the gas somewhere and it will have a negative impact no matter where that is, but there definitely is a pendulum effect especially if you bottom the rear suspension hard.

I had the chance to ask Quinn about that crash a couple weeks ago, it always seemed to me like he would have been fine on the Baja bike. Obviously, he wasn't on the Baja bike, so the point is moot... but he agreed that it was a misjudgment of the fuel load. I think the rear tank bikes work really well, right up until they don't, at which point they spank you hard.


My own experience has been that the front tank setup I've been using has some benefits. It can knife in sand, sure, but I can ride around that and it sticks like glue when cornering on the road, and I feel like it is extremely unlikely to bite if I hit something too hard. I've come to really like riding with it, at least with a partial fuel load. On my 690, I typically ran the rear tank down first, counter to my own prediction- I liked it with front fuel load except in very soft conditions.

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Old 10-25-2013, 12:48 PM   #3024
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Franco Picco is preparing the Dakar Wr450 for Francesco Catanese

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Old 10-25-2013, 03:44 PM   #3025
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Franco Picco is preparing the Dakar Wr450 for Francesco Catanese
I've admired Franco since I've been serious about Dakar. I can't imagine how much work he's put into racing all these years and then starting the support role he has now. Now that's a retirement plan...

I'm thinking that's a naked JVO kit like he used in the past?

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Ill start one for you in the new year!
Pete, If you're serious, let me know. I'm still looking at Yamaha because it's what I'm used to - and I'm hoping to invest and ramp things up next year, so whatever info I get the better. I found a plated 07 in my neck of the woods that's been very tempting to use as a donor/experiment.

(if only we could still run a super tenere... )
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:53 AM   #3026
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I've admired Franco since I've been serious about Dakar. I can't imagine how much work he's put into racing all these years and then starting the support role he has now. Now that's a retirement plan...

I'm thinking that's a naked JVO kit like he used in the past?



Pete, If you're serious, let me know. I'm still looking at Yamaha because it's what I'm used to - and I'm hoping to invest and ramp things up next year, so whatever info I get the better. I found a plated 07 in my neck of the woods that's been very tempting to use as a donor/experiment.

(if only we could still run a super tenere... )
Hi Silentwolf - that isn't a JVO kit - they use plastic tanks, and also the nav tower is completely different...

However, it's possible that Franco has constructed his own aluminium tanks and tower to go with the original style JVO fairing (which he always used to run), as the mounting locations for the fairing look similar to the original JVO kit...

btw. If you are interested in a fully street legal, rally prepped WR450F, drop me a line - my 2011 Dakar bike is for sale...



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Old 10-26-2013, 11:31 AM   #3027
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Peugeot is due back in 2015. Will the mini's still be there for the challenge?
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:38 PM   #3028
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:06 AM   #3029
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Looks like a bit of photoshop, what with the Dakar # for this year - but as the reigning champion #1 is his.

The intent certainly seems serious!
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Old 10-27-2013, 03:39 AM   #3030
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The intent certainly seems serious!
But the odds seemed stacked...

Five against four, against one (and two reserves?).
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