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Deadly99 · 04-01-2010, 04:39 AM

9 months until Dakar starts and still no sign of what KTM plans to do with a 450. I am surprised, I really thought we would have seen their factory riders testing 450's at the first round in Dubai.

Aussie66 · 04-01-2010, 06:09 AM

They have been testing in North Africa last month. Every 450 engine they have past the revenue exc, sxf old rfs etc etc ...... then followed a great cliffhanger.......................... the best basis for a new engine is :................................................. ..............

Leipo · 04-01-2010, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Aussie66

They have been testing in North Africa last month. Every 450 engine they have past the revenue exc, sxf old rfs etc etc ...... then followed a great cliffhanger.......................... the best basis for a new engine is :................................................. ..............

a 2-stroke?

Hayduke · 04-01-2010, 07:20 AM

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a 2-stroke?

OOOhhh! Now there's an idea!

Aussie66 · 04-01-2010, 07:31 AM

Sx-f

italrally · 04-01-2010, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Aussie66

Sx-f

I think they will use the 690 lc4 engine basis and put a new 450 head on the engine !

may be new front tanks and a smaller fairing and than they will have a very

good rally gun.

In Dubai all the bikes had problems, may be not Casteu with the sherco, but he changed also the engine.

Marc Coma and James West took their rally 690ties without problems to the podium.

Bluebull2007 · 04-01-2010, 08:38 AM

By the way, does anyone know how Luca Manca is doing? Has he recovered?

MEGO · 04-01-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluebull2007

By the way, does anyone know how Luca Manca is doing? Has he recovered?

Hello Guys,
Here You could see a TV interview to Luca Manca.
He's going very well, it seems.

http://sport.sky.it/sport/motori/201...ntervista.html

Bluebull2007 · 04-01-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MEGO

Hello Guys,
Here You could see a TV interview to Luca Manca.
He's going very well, it seems.

http://sport.sky.it/sport/motori/201...ntervista.html

Thanks for that Mego!

This is really great news!

cyborg · 04-01-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Aussie66

Sx-f

Isn't the SX-F 450 a 5 speed? I guess KTM could cram in a 6 speed if they want...

wrk2surf · 04-01-2010, 07:11 PM

I could see the xcf .. thats what the factory guys use here in desert racing

SafariBerg · 04-01-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie66

They have been testing in North Africa last month. Every 450 engine they have past the revenue exc, sxf old rfs etc etc ...... then followed a great cliffhanger.......................... the best basis for a new engine is :................................................. ..............

a 70 degree sloper 450 based on LC4 mechanicals

cross-country · 04-01-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SafariBerg

a 70 degree sloper 450 based on LC4 mechanicals

nice!... but I think
70 degree sloper based on RF4 twin cam motor

PackMule · 04-01-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SafariBerg

a 70 degree sloper 450 based on LC4 mechanicals

It's not April 1st down in your neck of the woods anymore, izzit Garry?

Aussie66 · 04-02-2010, 02:21 AM

i am not joking,

Apparently the sx-f is proving the most reliable and most promising. Possibly with a Husaberg 450 cylinder and valves. PS gearbox change is relatively simple. (words were whispered by a certain KTM testrider, who also just won a rally and speaks spanish). An no the 690 frame etc will not be used as it is too heavy for a 450 engine. A new trellis frame is easily built.

Be assured that it will look like a 690 rally bike, just smaller and lighter. (A bit like the Sherco masterpiece). Got the hots for carbon.

Credit to Casteau, every single brand of bike broke in the challenge except Sherco, unless i missed an engine change but that could be precautionary, and not because of a breakdown in the desert.

Even 690's broke down.

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04-01-2010, 06:09 AM	#302
Aussie66 Studly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Dubai Desert Oddometer: 636	They have been testing in North Africa last month. Every 450 engine they have past the revenue exc, sxf old rfs etc etc ...... then followed a great cliffhanger.......................... the best basis for a new engine is :................................................. ..............

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Aussie66 Studly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Dubai Desert Oddometer: 636	Sx-f

04-02-2010, 02:21 AM	#315
Aussie66 Studly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Dubai Desert Oddometer: 636	i am not joking, Apparently the sx-f is proving the most reliable and most promising. Possibly with a Husaberg 450 cylinder and valves. PS gearbox change is relatively simple. (words were whispered by a certain KTM testrider, who also just won a rally and speaks spanish). An no the 690 frame etc will not be used as it is too heavy for a 450 engine. A new trellis frame is easily built. Be assured that it will look like a 690 rally bike, just smaller and lighter. (A bit like the Sherco masterpiece). Got the hots for carbon. Credit to Casteau, every single brand of bike broke in the challenge except Sherco, unless i missed an engine change but that could be precautionary, and not because of a breakdown in the desert. Even 690's broke down.