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Old 04-30-2010, 03:56 PM   #376
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2011, the distance required to trigger the GPS will be reduced to 400 metres.

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Wow - In open terrain that seems like a pretty tiny box!
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Old 04-30-2010, 04:38 PM   #377
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Better start lookin at 450s

Bikes : towards 450cc for all
The movement adopted in the 2010 edition will continue in the bike category. The perspective of a field made up of bikes with a maximum power limit of 450cc has convinced several constructors to increase their involvement in the rally-raid discipline.
• As already announced, as from 2011, the riders featured in A.S.O.'s Elite list will all be obliged to ride on vehicles whose power does not exceed 450cc.
• The number of engines authorised will be 3.
• All other riders are free to choose their type of bike.
• For the Dakar 2012, all riders taking part must ride a 450cc bike.
Cars : a better balance between diesel and petrol (gasoline)
In 2010, A.S.O. decided to increase the air intake on petrol (i.e. gasoline) engines to a diameter of 34 mm. The desired goal was clear: to strike the best balance possible between the two types of engine currently used in all-terrain rallying, petrol (i.e. gasoline) and diesel. For the Dakar 2011, all the drivers from all the teams (professionals or amateurs) will be able to take advantage of this measure.
Furthermore, teams running petrol-powered vehicles will be able to fit 6-speed gearboxes, in contrast to professional teams running diesel-powered vehicles, who will still have to use 5-speed gearboxes.
Navigation : priority for the road-book
For several years, the Dakar rally's teams have been making modifications to reduce the influence of GPS and place the emphasis on reading of the road-book. Pure navigation skill is the very essence of the rally-raid discipline. For 2011, the changes will concern the way point markers (WPM) that the competitors must find. Last year, the competitors were guided by their instruments when they reached a distance of 3 kilometres from the WPM. In 2011, the distance required to trigger the GPS will be reduced to 400 metres.
Dakar Argentina Chile 2011 rally Schedule
6th May : Dakar World Tour* - Holland
12th May : Dakar World Tour* - Spain
15th May : Registration for competitors starts
18th May : Dakar World Tour* - China
20th May : Dakar World Tour* - Japan
31st May : Dakar World Tour* - Argentina
7th June : Dakar World Tour* - Chile
10th June : Dakar World Tour* - Italy
+ 10 dates: Dakar World Tour* Central Europe (Serbia, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Slovenia, Romania, Hungary, Ukraine, Poland)
25th-26th November : Boarding of European vehicles for the Atlantic crossing
Noon 28th December until noon on 30th December : Collection of vehicles
30th and 31st December : Administrative and technical scrutineering in Buenos Aires
1st January : Briefing and starting ceremony
2nd to 15th January : Race in Argentina and Chile
8th January : Rest day in Arica (in the Atacama Desert, Chile)
16th January : Finishing ceremony in Buenos Aires
* The Dakar World Tour is a series of presentations of the rally intended for competitors, partners and the media in 17 different countries.


they left us out in the US and Austrailia... WTF???

http://raid.madeinmotorsport.com/en/...tour-3937.html
Geez, I'm feeling snubbed

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Old 04-30-2010, 05:47 PM   #378
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Dakar plans to expand in 2012

Look what I found in this morning´s national newpaper, El Commercial:



Here is my translation:

WE ARE ON THE ROUTE

Organisers of the most important rally in the world have proposed that Perù forms part of the competition

When Arturo Woodman, president of the Peruvian Sporting Institute (IPD); recieved a telephone call from a number with a prefix of 0033, he never imagined the proposition he would be getting from the other end of the line. It was the organisers of the Dakar Rally who proposed to include Peru in part of the route in 2012.

The instant response from the institute was "Yes". The mere idea that our country is included in this international calendar event, including at least one stage was enough to convince Woodman to accept the requirements of the organisation.

If Peru desires to partake in the Dakar 2012, it will need to invest 3 million dollars. "It would be very good for the country to have the tourist benefits this competition will generate," explains Woodman briefly.

The intention of the organizers was to further extend the route into the territories of Argentina and Chile in 2009, after the threat of terrorism in Mauritainia obliged them to cancel on African soil.

The 2011 version of Dakar has a new novelty, to Arica, evidence of an intention by the organizers to expand the route into all of South America.

Woodman´s affirmative response is fact, now everything depends on the willingness of the government to be part on the most important rally of the world.


All I can say is:

Wooohooooo!!!

Im not sure about Dakar taking part in whole of South America, but I can tell you there are bigger dunes here Peru than what I´ve seen in Chile & Argentina in the Dakar. Remember its Desert and mountains all the way along the coast of Peru for about 3,000km.

Most Peruvians I speak to are very keen about Dakar, they certainly know more about it than your average US citizen. This is going to be great for the sport if it comes to pass.
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Old 04-30-2010, 05:51 PM   #379
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Cool.

Argentina, Chile, Peru.... how about Bolivia, ASO?
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Old 04-30-2010, 06:30 PM   #380
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Im willing to bet they have approach Bolivia, but Evo Morales (president) is very pro Hugo Chavez...They might be a bit more averse. I cant help but hope.

Thinking about it 3 million dollars will cover 3 stages...Chile & Argentin both paid USD7MM for next year, so I guess its a million per stage. That means 3 stages in Peru probably. Theyll ride p to Arequipa and back if thats the case. Awesome riding, awesome scenery.
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Old 04-30-2010, 06:34 PM   #381
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Im willing to bet they have approach Bolivia, but Evo Morales (president) is very pro Hugo Chavez...They might be a bit more averse. I cant help but hope.

Thinking about it 3 million dollars will cover 3 stages...Chile & Argentin both paid USD7MM for next year, so I guess its a million per stage. That means 3 stages in Peru probably. Theyll ride p to Arequipa and back if thats the case. Awesome riding, awesome scenery.

I need to start planning to be there. (as a spectator of course.)
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Old 04-30-2010, 06:39 PM   #382
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Well you can stay over ay our place in Lima on the way
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Old 04-30-2010, 06:40 PM   #383
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Well you can stay over ay our place in Lima on the way

Don't be suprised if you get a call...
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:39 PM   #384
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Looks like thay are going to be on the border of Peru next year...

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Dakar announces the 2011 course
The very first day of 2011 is set to be an exciting one for motor heads and rally enthusiasts alike as the Dakar Rally kicks off the new year in host countries Chile and Argentina. Running from the 1st of January until the 16th, the 33rd Dakar, long distance endurance race will see over 300 drivers compete in harsh conditions between Buenos Aires, Argentina and Arica in Chile’s north.
Formerly known as the ‘Paris-Dakar’ an off road spectacle traversing France and Northern Africa, (yes all the way from Paris to the capital of Senegal, the namesake of the raid), this off road rally is now based in South America and is open to professional and amateur participants alike, with the later making up a large percentage of the contestants who will compete on rough terrain on 450CC motorbikes, and a range of off road vehicles often covering up to 800 km a day.
Organisers of the Dakar Amaury Sport Organization (ASO), released this morning the course and event stages of next year’s raid in which riders, drivers and crews will do battle in scenes reminiscent of Mad Max (minus Mel Gibson), with the route providing many rugged challenges including the rocky outcrops of the Atacama Desert in Chile’s north, the Andes Cordillera plateaux and white dunes of the Fiambalá region in Catacarma Argentina. See below for a full list of the course routes for 2011.
The environmental impact of the Dakar Rally has always been questionable spurring the ASO to launch new environmental incentives, according to their official website: such as carbon footprint reduction, alternative energy categories, waste collection services and a greater look at a route of mutual agreement between the participating countries.
An estimated 4 million spectators will experience Dakar 2011 in Chile and Argentina and for those more vivacious motorists; competitor enrolment will open on 15th May.
1 January: Buenos Aires – Victoria
January 2: Victoria – Córdoba
January 3: Cordoba – San Miguel de Tucumán
January 4: San Miguel de Tucuman – San Salvador de Jujuy
January 5: San Salvador de Jujuy – Calama
January 6: Calama – Iquique
January 7: Iquique – Arica
8 January: Rest day in Arica
January 9: Arica – Antofagasta
January 10: Antofagasta – Copiapo
January 11: Copiapo – Copiapo
January 12: Copiapo – Fiambalá
January 13: Fiambalá – San Juan
January 14: San Juan – Córdoba
January 15: Córdoba – Buenos Aires
http://www.thepulse.cl/2010/04/29/da...and-argentina/

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Old 04-30-2010, 07:53 PM   #385
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Wow - In open terrain that seems like a pretty tiny box!

No kidding! From 3000m to 400m.
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what Cyril was doin this month...
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Hey Neil, I might have to take you up on your offer in January-I already have a place in Buenos Aires for January
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:35 PM   #390
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hmmmmmm

2012 fia/norra rally cortez mexicali - mexicali
Very interesting note i think sal fish is going to lose some sleep in the couple of months if this event comes true there trying to mix the Baja desert racing clases with the Dakar clases in this rally. Heres the note by dust drivers:

Our friends Drivers Dust made an interesting interview with Eliseo Garcia, a representative of NORRA in Mexico under the Mexican 1000 Rally organized by the promoter, who was the creator and first organizer of what is now known as the Baja 1000. Eliseo Garcia offered the first taste of what will be a new version of the legendary Dakar Rally, the Rally of Cortez 2012, only now in our territory and sanctioned by the FIA, the International Federation of Motor Sports. in 2012.

On the Mexican 1000, antecedent and exploratory field so as to prepare the 2012 Rally of Cortez, said that this is a race of remembrance with the participation of legendary drivers, and a challenge for pilots legend, will be present dynasties that run today on the same cars of its predecessors, which places them at the same level at which they competed. Will be running legends like Roger Norman, Andy and Scott Johnson and Rick Mcmilling in old cars that puts them at the level at which there was a few decades earlier, on an equal footing, and now have to demonstrate those characteristics, "who is the good" . This Rally is organized as the Dakar Rally, with transit and special stages in three days, not like the Baja 1000 that is from point to point. It is a new concept, which includes classic cars and alternative, seeing the future with a view to developing new technologies ...

The important news is that The Mexican 1000, is a preview of what will be the Rally of Cortez in 2012, intended as the Dakar Rally Mexico, lasting one week, and coming out of Mexicali to the same place, crossing the Paz to Mazatlan by ferry and up through the deserts of Sonora and Sinaloa to return to the starting point in Mexicali, with the same type of format that is currently running in the Dakar Rally and the same vehicles, and also includes off-road vehicles that traditionally run on the Baja. They want to attract riders from Europe and South America competing in Dakar and license of FIA for the 2012 Rally of Cortez in Baja, with T1 and T2 categories to come and compete cars like the Mitsubishi Montero or a BMW X5, vehicles that are competing in Dakar.

Returning to the Mexican 1000, Elisha said Roger Norman, Larry Roeseller dumbbell and Mike Post, who always runs the Riviera Racing Trophy, a Trophy Truck will run on alternative fuel car, which belonged to the team Duralast and the idea is that innovate with this technology that is a mixture known as E85, 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline blend used in commercial hybrid vehicles. He reported that electric bikes also come with 6 hours 250 cc charge Lithium Ion battery that allows them to not have to be stopping for refueling, thus achieving greater progress. In summary, said that the Mexican Eliseo Garcia 1000 is basically an event of exploration and experimentation that will improve and develop these new technologies in the future, and to gradually open the way for the big event is the Rally of Cortez in 2012.



like I said.... HHHMMMMM
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