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Old 07-08-2012, 04:11 PM   #1396
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Yeah Ned, I'm with you, my bike was mint when I got it but it sure wasn't for long. I was bummed when you told me I couldn't get a left side rear from you anymore for my rally lite build, but I'm still doing my best to cover Newfoundland with Doubletakes.

No worries, I still haven't managed to get it back on he road yet. Sigh. Rigid 6 bulb flush mount is on the way for headlight duty

One day I'll be riding it again
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:54 PM   #1397
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Yeah Ned, I'm with you, my bike was mint when I got it but it sure wasn't for long. I was bummed when you told me I couldn't get a left side rear from you anymore for my rally lite build, but I'm still doing my best to cover Newfoundland with Doubletakes.

No worries, I still haven't managed to get it back on he road yet. Sigh. Rigid 6 bulb flush mount is on the way for headlight duty

One day I'll be riding it again
You should get yourself a DR650; that way you could ride every day!
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:56 PM   #1398
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You should get yourself a DR650; that way you could ride every day!
it's been time and $$ to put into the 525, mostly time; you know I'm never home....
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:56 AM   #1399
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SI... es muy bonita!
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:21 AM   #1400
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SI... es muy bonita!
Great looking, and I bet great to ride as well!
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:43 AM   #1401
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I get a big kick out of how slim the new JVO kits (and Honda from last year) make the front end. Compared to many bikes they disguise the fuel capacity well and look...well its a personel preference I suppose but to me the look great
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:03 AM   #1402
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SI... es muy bonita!
Here are the details we have so far. Updates and pricing will be posted soon: http://www.rallymanagementservices.c...-rally-kit-jvo


2012+ Yamaha WR450 FI Rally Kit, JVO

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Old 07-10-2012, 10:02 AM   #1403
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I get a big kick out of how slim the new JVO kits (and Honda from last year) make the front end. Compared to many bikes they disguise the fuel capacity well and look...well its a personel preference I suppose but to me the look great
Agree.

My only concern is how the changed weight bias affects bump absorption at the limit. I saw a lot of straight line over the bar incidents that I would chalk up to bottoming out, accelerating all the mass of a rear tank upwards, and then being along for the ride as 50 lbs of gas swung up and over the point of no return.
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:02 AM   #1404
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Is the rear tank also the subframe?

Looks great
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:06 AM   #1405
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Agree.

My only concern is how the changed weight bias affects bump absorption at the limit. I saw a lot of straight line over the bar incidents that I would chalk up to bottoming out, accelerating all the mass of a rear tank upwards, and then being along for the ride as 50 lbs of gas swung up and over the point of no return.
Funny, I didn't see that from my lawnchair...must have been the cold beer obstructing my view
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:47 AM   #1406
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Wagging the dog?

I would tend to agree with Ned - the current vogue in the 450cc class is to remove the Enduro/MX seat subframe and replace it with an all-in-one tank/subframe unit of anything from 26-30L capacity - that is a lot of weight to have hanging off the back/under your backside, particularly if you consider the suspension action when full vs. empty over the course of a stage...

fwiw. The current JVO kit splits the overall fuel-load front and rear - the front tanks on the YZF based kit are 8 & 9 litres, and the rear 15 litres (giving 32 in total) - I imagine this 2012/13 WR kit has a similar split... I'm sure it has escaped noone's attention that KTM also spread the fuel load evenly between front and rear tanks - seems to work for them!

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ps. Since this is the Bivouac, I would hazard a guess that the 'photo' of the new JVO kit (I got the same press release by email today too) has been photoshopped - look at the top of the fairing wings (in fact the whole headlight assembly) and the bottom of the tanks above the cranckcase... It just doesn't look real to me? I guess they are still working on the finished item...
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:04 PM   #1407
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Funny, I didn't see that from my lawnchair...must have been the cold beer obstructing my view
Didn't us 'Bench Racers' 'DECIDE' this was what contributed to Quinn Codys trip over the bars (Dakar '12)!
Confirming Neduro's observations above.
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Old 07-11-2012, 05:36 AM   #1408
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Didn't us 'Bench Racers' 'DECIDE' this was what contributed to Quinn Codys trip over the bars (Dakar '12)!
Confirming Neduro's observations above.
I dont see a whole lot of difference between 2x side tanks holding 6 liters each in the old set up and 18 liters in total for the new setup. The weight is kept way more central and cleary does benefit the riders.

Going over the handlebars has more to do with other factors if you'd ask me..
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:27 AM   #1409
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I dont see a whole lot of difference between 2x side tanks holding 6 liters each in the old set up and 18 liters in total for the new setup. The weight is kept way more central and cleary does benefit the riders.

Going over the handlebars has more to do with other factors if you'd ask me..
Must agree with you there.
The bottom line is that the fuel is a huge aspect of performance of any long distance rally bike. Managing performance of the whole package as it is being affected by the ever varying weight of fuel and its behavior is a black art in it self.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:36 PM   #1410
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Since I don't recall seeing it detailed anywhere..... What is the basic strategy on which tanks to use first during the ride ? Do riders tend to runoff the rear tanks first then swap the feed to the main tank? Or do you leave all peacocks open to allow the fuel from all tanks to feed the pump evenly ? Having never ridden with rear tanks on a bike, I still can't imagine that you would want to wrestle a bike at speed with an empty main and all that extra weight hanging off the back end. I'm used to a measly 3.2 litres sloshing around in a trials bike!!
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