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Old 01-02-2013, 10:50 AM   #15166
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I would say white but I'm getting to black..

so... gray is the colour ???
im hangin on to that but

Jackson did sing it doesnt matter if you black or White ..

but if you gray what will happend then
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:24 PM   #15167
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Grey can jump
Yea, I'm on OEM suspension currently and that shot would result in a hard knock on mine. (20,000 miles) She is feeling soggy a bit, compared to new. And I rode an S10 with about 50,000 miles on it and I thought the seat was in the low position. It wasn't!

Compared to OEM from decades past, I admit the Tenere is really nice. But to ride it like this guy is, you need Dallara's bike. Or one that gets kitted with the coming Tabasco-Ohlins getup.

Can't wait. :)
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:39 PM   #15168
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Grey can jump
seriously good shot...

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I had a question for the regulars...

When I first started reading about the ST, I seem to remember that some folks thought that the suspension was a little stiff.

My findings were exactly the opposite. I feel that the suspenders are a little soft, for my taste.
I find the OEM fine, not the best but pretty good for OEM. I don't jump on purpose but where I live it's going to happen at some point.

What I have found though is the standard setting for me at 85Kg was slightly under damped with the OEM tires. A click or two more on the damping fixed that for the front.

When the K60's went on I needed a couple of clicks more to smooth it back out. I think the back could do with some more damping controls as well.

However I don't think YAMAHA expected the "pipe and slippers" brigade would be doing what many have ended up doing, otherwise they would have fitted even stiffer longer suspension.

Compared to the Strom 1K which was a bit softer on the street, but then tended to suffer "lockup" when it got really crappy, I think that it is really sweet.

Those that have the gold plated suspension fitted to their bikes may disagree but fancy suspension is something I will only look at when it is re build time. starting with the rear.

But what I can say is that this bike has me chasing limits rather than avoiding them so time will tell.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:57 PM   #15169
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...Those that have the gold plated suspension fitted to their bikes may disagree but fancy suspension is something I will only look at when it is re build time. starting with the rear...

When do you think you'll be ready for a suspension rebuild, Graham?

Just curious. As you know I went the whole nine yards with Stoltec... Penske rear shock and Eibach spring out back. Penske valving and new springs up front. But I didn't do mine until it was a year old and had over 21,000 miles on it. What amazed me was finding out just how badly the stock suspension had degraded over time. Like you, I thought the stock suspension was pretty good (though too soft - I had to ride with the rear preload cranked full stiff from day one) when I got the bike, but then as miles piled up I began to notice it being a bit limp. It was only when I put on the new suspension pieces that I realized just how bad things had gotten.

To say the new suspension pieces were an incredible revelation would even be a gross understatement!

On thing to note... When Nick Stoten at Stoltec pulled my forks apart he was rather surprised at the wear of the fork bushings on both legs. Though they were not *worn out*, they were worn to the point that he recommended I replace them no later than about 30,000 to 32,000 miles (when the oil is about due to be changed again). So that's something perhaps everyone should keep an eye on.

He also told me that despite the Super Tenere's forks *looking* like a nice set of MX or Enduro bike forks that they were far from it internally. Essentially the internals are built off of a couple of years back R6, so that's something else you might want to note.

Just FYI...

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Old 01-02-2013, 02:36 PM   #15170
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Hi Folks!

Ive been hanging around this thread since summer.
and im about to buy me an s10.

I currently own a ktm 690 enduro which is a fun bike
but

there is always a BUT ;)

i have started to getting tired of her and all the things she is demanding from me almost like my wife.

i just cant decide which colour


:) :)
690E? selling?

Color? I have black one, but then I am very comfortable with my sexuality.
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:57 PM   #15171
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What is your opinion?; Do you think the suspension is soft or hard?...


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Soft if you want to do serious off road

Ok for touring or soft off road
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:02 PM   #15172
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Soft if you want to do serious off road

Ok for touring or soft off road
I concur.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:13 PM   #15173
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I upgrade my suspension to a BM with lots of adjustments including the length. The bike handling improves a lot and is the best investment if you want to save your sump.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:32 PM   #15174
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I upgrade my suspension to a BM with lots of adjustments including the length. The bike handling improves a lot and is the best investment if you want to save your sump.

I couldn't agree more...

The only two "performance" upgrades to my S-10 is the Penske suspension and the ECUunleashed re-flash, and I think those are the two best things you can do to the bike. IMHO maybe the two best cost/benefit ratio things out there.

The ECU re-flash gets rid of all the low-end stumble, etc., smooths out the power delivery, and eliminates the throttle restriction in the first three gears... In my mind giving you the power delivery the design engineers intended before the emission compliance guys got involved.

And then the suspension upgrade pays you dividends all across the board... Smoother, more compliant ride while still being firmer and more controlled... More ground clearance, both for off-road riding and cornering clearance on the pavement... Less fore and aft pitching under acceleration and braking... Better traction, better control, better feel, and better surface feedback... It just makes everything better, period.

And even when you do both you have way less money wrapped up in the motorcycle than a BMW G/S, all while still having something more reliable and with suspension custom built just for you!!!

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Old 01-02-2013, 04:02 PM   #15175
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When do you think you'll be ready for a suspension rebuild, Graham?
When it's giving me the shits..
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:12 PM   #15176
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When it's giving me the shits..

Well, that's an interesting way to gauge rebuild intervals...

But seriously, what I was trying to ask is at what mileage you think you will be pulling your forks apart, etc.?

Thanks!

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Old 01-02-2013, 04:43 PM   #15177
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But seriously, what I was trying to ask is at what mileage you think you will be pulling your forks apart, etc.?
The 20,000Km+ winter tear down. I'll be having a look and if what I see gives me the shits OR if the new oil doesn't work and gives me the shits....

I'll be looking at some shock treatment.

As far as anything goes, like skyhook, multi-adjustable, wiz bang magic carpet DES error suspension goes..Fine as long as they give me the source code and the complete engineering specs and software tools with the bike.

This hidden propriety computer stuff has gone far enough I think.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:20 PM   #15178
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The KLR owner in me senses an opportunity to pick up everyones "lightly" used
items off ebay and not sweat the small stuff.

I'll just get some fancy shock stickers from Jaumev. No one looks that close anyway.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:51 PM   #15179
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I also put the penske front and back with new springs, but I kept my 800 lb spring and the OEM shock, also still have the OEM fork springs, and some .95s and I never owned a KLR.
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Old 01-02-2013, 06:21 PM   #15180
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Pluric,

Too late to claim you "KLR Thriftiness" with the Tenere. You are way deep$$$$. Maybe not Penske$$
But you can't hide those wheels by Woody.
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