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Old 04-12-2013, 03:01 AM   #17041
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For me the K60s are too compromised, on the Tar they weave like a shopping trolley at decent pace and off road the front washes easily at low speed on the local trails (soft soil/mud/clay except if baked in a rare summer). These limitations for me mean I could probably do just as well if a little bit slower off road on a "normal" adv tyre ie EXP or Anakee 3 perhaps , and retain good tarmac grip as well. As stated the K60s are a TC light bonanza even at moderate throttle though the front K60 held up well in an Emergency stop situation I had with a Range Rover that swapped lanes as I overtook recently, that was full front brake and fork drive though it did wander a bit as my butt cheeks puckered. Wear rates seem variable, I got 3.5Kmile out of a Tourance EXP rear and the K60 looks like its got about 1k left (2mm of usable tread left at 3.5kmiles), probably down to all the TC action it sees.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:21 AM   #17042
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For me the K60s are too compromised, on the Tar they weave like a shopping trolley at decent pace
Interesting, I've pushed my K60s hard on twisty mountain roads and they've been stellar so far.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:07 AM   #17043
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TCK80s are amazingly grippy as you are not concerned about cost/mileage. 3000 miles is the norm for a rear.


This is about the limit for the TKCs. I typically got about 6-6.5K miles out of rear, though the knobs were pretty short in the middle...
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:54 AM   #17044
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Interesting, I've pushed my K60s hard on twisty mountain roads and they've been stellar so far.
Its more in a straight line on the gas that the front gets very unstable, reduced the effect a bit by running at max allowed pressure but not eliminated. Prior to that it was stable as a very stable thing even on squared off Tourance EXPs. The Acid test will be how it behaves on the next set of fresh tyres likely to the Anakee 3s.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:58 AM   #17045
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Its more in a straight line on the gas that the front gets very unstable, reduced the effect a bit by running at max allowed pressure but not eliminated. Prior to that it was stable as a very stable thing even on squared off Tourance EXPs. The Acid test will be how it behaves on the next set of fresh tyres likely to the Anakee 3s.
That is my experience too. Used to it now. The first time was an eye opener.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:17 AM   #17046
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Dunno, straights or twisties they've been fine so far.

Here's a good endorsement in this epic thread.

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I am using the Heidenau K60's
I like them and hoping to buy some here in Bogota
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:03 AM   #17047
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These limitations for me mean I could probably do just as well if a little bit slower off road on a "normal" adv tyre ie EXP or Anakee 3 perhaps , and retain good tarmac grip as well.
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Wear rates seem variable, I got 3.5Kmile out of a Tourance EXP rear and the K60 looks like its got about 1k left (2mm of usable tread left at 3.5kmiles), probably down to all the TC action it sees.
Holy shit, Batman, I've got 15,000 miles on the rear K60 and it still has plenty of tread left, even if it is squared to look like an old Army truck tire.


Hard to believe, but there is 4mm of tread remaining at the edge of that center rib!

I got the K60s after a gravel road ride with Dirt Dad and DCStrom and my worn OEM BW tires were just miserably all over the place. I was also looking at a ride from DC to Alaska and wanted tires that could last.

As with Mikef, I've liked the K60s but have always been reminded of their compromises. The big one is the fat center rib that is essentially a slick surface on a wet road, now that it's worn. There just are zero rain grooves to it. Leaned way over, the K60s do OK, but are clearly more of a knobby, especially in the sandy corners of West Virginny. I'm realizing that even though the K60s do last forever, for me I'm not totally comfortable with the trade of fresh rubber for less cost. ($/mile versus feel)

So while the squared-off rear K60 technically has some life left and I'm going to try cutting some rain grooves in that center rib, a set of Anakee 3s is waiting on the garage floor. Maybe I'll be back to the K60s later, maybe not.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:25 AM   #17048
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15K??? That's just amazing. I would never look at another brand if I could get that.

I've posted this before but I was so pleased to get 6,500 miles out of a rear. That was
my best ever rear tire mileage. I did replace it with another K60.

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Old 04-12-2013, 10:48 AM   #17049
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It's all those wheelie's and uncontrollable desire to impress the hotties...

Mine at 8.5k miles...

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Old 04-12-2013, 10:48 AM   #17050
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15K??? That's just amazing. I would never look at another brand if I could get that.

I've posted this before but I was so pleased to get 6,500 miles out of a rear. That was
my best ever rear tire mileage. I did replace it with another K60.


15k miles... wow... I have to think, not a ham fisted throttle... rarely loaded up heavy... riding on roads with less coarse grit... impressive!
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:59 AM   #17051
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[QUOTE=Wreckchecker;21170191]Holy shit, Batman, I've got 15,000 miles on the rear K60 and it still has plenty of tread left, even if it is squared to look like an old Army truck tire.

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Mine at 8.5k miles...
That's it. I want my money back.

Really, that is some very impressive mileage to get out of a rear tire.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:08 AM   #17052
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Pluric,
Go buy and test those Full Bore tires and report back... but it does seem too good be true...
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Old 04-12-2013, 01:40 PM   #17053
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Holy shit, Batman, I've got 15,000 miles on the rear K60 and it still has plenty of tread left, even if it is squared to look like an old Army truck tire.

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That's it. I want my money back.

Really, that is some very impressive mileage to get out of a rear tire.
Chris (Sail2XX) got 24,000 in mostly commuting and is also here in Maryland. Seeing that I just finished the annual chore, maybe it's just the texture of the dollar bills that our roads seem to be lined with every tax season.
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Old 04-12-2013, 01:47 PM   #17054
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Pluric,
Go buy and test those Full Bore tires and report back... but it does seem too good be true...
I know. Send me a set and I will call you a sponser.

I'm actually the last guy who should test stuff. I seldom can tell a difference in tires or suspension.

There's guys out there that can't sleep with a pea under their mattress. They can notice
a one pound drop in tire pressure and report the difference. I'm more in the
"Hey, I didn't crash so it must handle okay" I seldom notice subtle differences in anything.
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Old 04-12-2013, 01:59 PM   #17055
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I seldom notice subtle differences in anything.
Except innuendo.
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