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Old 06-16-2013, 02:25 AM   #18451
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Coming from a DL650 I still need to get used to the much higher fuel consumption (average today 6.5 l/100km compared to the DL650 4.4 l/100km), might need that ecu flash everyone is talking about!
Might need a right wrist reflash I think.

I've never managed that much fuel consumption. Are you sure you are using the whole rev range?
Like anything under 5K RPM. Might explain the vibes. .

Have you tried 4th gear yet..

Sorry it's been a long day.
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:04 AM   #18452
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The ProTaper Raptor also helps reduce vibration.

Rox Risers should have a riser that fits your needs.

Somewhere in this forum is a spreadsheet most handlebars and the specifications. If I remember correctly the sweep of the OEM bars are WAY different than any of the other bars. Of course the wider the shoulders the rider the worse it is for that riders wrists.
Yes, the OEM sweep is really radical even when comared to adventure bends, which usually have more sweep than most dirt bars. I don't want something quite so straight as a dirt bend, but like the compromise offered by the Fasst adventure 19° bend.

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Old 06-16-2013, 03:23 AM   #18453
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How muchos is the right wrist reflash....?
My average at the moment with highway and a bit city riding is 5.3/100km l measured.
To get the 6.5 l/100km I did use the whole rev range and lot of mountain riding and dirt roads, high speed dirt road riding and almost getting stuck in mud which probably caused higher consumption, difficult to compare to my old DL650 since this one got another 550cc volume to fill with fuel/air on the other hand the revs are lower, but the bike weigh another 40 odd kilos plus shaft drive..
Got no idea how some people can manage under 5 l/100km, maybe 80 km/h with very steady throttle and no stop/start.
Never ridden it before as the ride today, quite fun actually.
Might not need any more anti vibe accessories, time will tell but it is looking good :-)
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:40 AM   #18454
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6,5 is pretty normal for those conditions. More technical it gets, higher the consumption.


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Old 06-16-2013, 02:10 PM   #18455
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Any thoughts that too high bars might affect the posture in a negative way?
Yes it's definately a negative. Riding a sports bike all leaned over is not great for long range comfort obviously, but the bars are plenty high on the tenere the way it comes. If you raise them all you do is put more weight square on your rear. 150 billion Harleys are this way and people seem to like all their weight square on their rear or else don't know any better. I'll wager they don't know any better. Back in the 70s the motorcycles came with bars higher than the tenere generally and they would get tiring on long rides. Switch to lower bars was always an improvement. Lower bars back then were about where the tenere comes now, so I don't think risers are the answer. About the bend of the bar, possibly that could be changed for the better. The bend doesn't bother me though.
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:48 PM   #18456
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The reason I changed the bars was that I have used the rox risers before not only did it get the bars too high it didn't look good from the side. It jus puts the bars up too hight and back to much. The Pro Taper way is jus right and it also looks factory. I am about 5'9" and my arms are about 21" long (leaning over too much) so I needed to do something. When I stand up wile riding its a lot safer. O' yea I don't have to change any clutch, break lines..
A lot cheaper the whole swap cost me about $75 dollars...
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Old 06-16-2013, 04:13 PM   #18457
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Risers are not always about bar height while sitting.

I have literally been "on my feet" for hours at a time on this beast.
It is fantastic when set up properly.

I am more prone to falling down when seated.
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Old 06-16-2013, 04:15 PM   #18458
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Wanted to give thanks to Jaumev for the handle bar idea....
Put 150+ miles on the bike today the handle bars were perfect..
Thanks again. Jaumev

Glad you like it but wasn't my idea, someone else in the forum (sorry I don't remember who) helped me as well.

This weekend I did my firts long trip with the Protaper and I'm really pleased, perfect to me without risers.
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Old 06-16-2013, 04:37 PM   #18459
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Old 06-16-2013, 06:20 PM   #18460
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How much taller is the Protaper one you installed compared to stock?

Also I believe the Flexx bar is around 1/2 inch taller but straighter maybe that would be enough without riser on the other hand it might be too far forward without a riser that also bring you back a bit again, lots to think about before I hand away my last farkling $.

Start to wonder if it is worth the extra $$$ for the Flexx but everyone that bought them seems to be happy, surely they can be taken off the bike for a future trade in so they stay in my ownership.
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Old 06-16-2013, 06:35 PM   #18461
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Pro taper handlebars

Dude Flexx bars look sweet but when i saw the price
totally out of the question for what i was looking for..
I think the pro is about 1" to 1" 1/2 taller than factory but also the angle of the grips are a little more angled back.
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:10 PM   #18462
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:22 PM   #18463
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I like the idea with a slightly rise in the handlebar and straighter bar like ATV.
With the Raptor I might not even need risers.
I could get 5 of these handlebars compared to the Flexx.
I`m looking (was looking...) at the 15 degree Flexx, how many degree is this Pro Taper?
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:23 PM   #18464
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I believe I suggested you could try a straighter (traditional) bar to see if it helps with your discomfort, without spending the $$ for the Flex bars.

Then if indeed the ergonomic change helped, you would know you might be a long term owner. After which, big farkle $$'s aren't as painful.

Just makes sense.

Cheap bars.
Rox risers. (they can be resold easily, if not to your liking)

Longer rides without fun-robbing discomfort was originally the mission. Right?
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:29 PM   #18465
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So..headed to the house today and go by a Yamaha shop..the fackin Demo truck is there..know what I did? Yeah..I rode one..

All the standard ribbing.."Hey you gonna upgrade that GSA?"

In all honesty, I love the look of the Super..but I LOVE my GSA too..I was scared to ride it..

WOW...what a motor..not unlike my GSA I hate the bars on it..but ergo wise the bike was great..weird I can flat foot it..pulls like a freight train..

So I know there is an outfit making ABS bypass switches..what's the deal about them dying all the time? Some third party is doing reflashes to actually make them run?

Is the factory suspension just shit? Or is it actually workable? Is it set up as rebound adjustable only?

My GSA has almost 100K on it...as cheap as these are..I could be persuaded..

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