The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread - Page 583

tremor38 · 07-23-2011, 05:00 PM

[QUOTE=Bryn1203;16462596
Off I went - firstly the S10 is very easy to ride - within seconds felt I right at home; it handles very well - surprisingly well - on battlewing rubber. Was in tour mode to start with - switched to 'Sport' and that made a real big difference - much quicker. But and its a big butt - it was still slower than expected. Slower than my Uly. Yes it cruises easily at 100mph but only had about 30mph left. It just does get the pulse raised under acceleration.

To conclude - Great bike - well engineered and fantastic ride, greater comfort, brakes and all round ability but not fast enough for me. Gotta be honest.

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The cruising speed you state (100mph, but only had about 30mph left) is pretty close to that of a stock Uly, so I really don't see the problem.

combo · 07-23-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryn1203

........... wasn't looking to ride a S10 but as I could, I did. Rode to the bike shop on my (nearly) trusty tweaked Buell ulysses - checked out the four S10 's outside the bike shop - two of which had been used in the USA for 'VIP' test rides - cough

anyway - after filling in the forms & signing my life away I got given the keys to a black S10 - 2012 model I guess - and expected back in half an hour. I was expecting a heavy, poor handling but fast ride. Sitting on the S10 straight away felt 'right' - the ergonomics are spot on. Controls are easily to hand and height is lower than my Uly.

Off I went - firstly the S10 is very easy to ride - within seconds felt I right at home; it handles very well - surprisingly well - on battlewing rubber. Was in tour mode to start with - switched to 'Sport' and that made a real big difference - much quicker. But and its a big butt - it was still slower than expected. Slower than my Uly. Yes it cruises easily at 100mph but only had about 30mph left. It just does get the pulse raised under acceleration.

To conclude - Great bike - well engineered and fantastic ride, greater comfort, brakes and all round ability but not fast enough for me. Gotta be honest.

I tried a Aprilia Tuono RV4 half hour later - guess what ? - yep tooo fast

Sounds like you enjoyed the ride but not the type bike you like. Thats why they make all types of bikes.

Thanks for the report!

Rema in Paluda · 07-23-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RED CAT

The Super 10 feels like a tank compared to a 2011 GS12.

Here, your KitKat for today
(yes i know i should not feed you)

combo · 07-23-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rema in Paluda

Here, your KitKat for today
(yes i know i should not feed you)

Your right!

That guy is a troll!

Animo · 07-23-2011, 06:48 PM

Maybe he meant tanks are unstoppeable

, my Supa sure feels unstoppeable. It is a tank compared to a GS.

combo · 07-23-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Supa12 Pilot

Maybe he meant tanks are unstoppeable

, my Supa sure feels unstoppeable. It is a tank compared to a GS.

Maybe your right! I didn't think of it that way

Texting can sure screw up some stuff.

I know I can.

ArmyMedic · 07-23-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryn1203

To conclude - Great bike - well engineered and fantastic ride, greater comfort, brakes and all round ability but not fast enough for me. Gotta be honest.

My V-strom and Uly only topped out at 130 too so.... Anyways, how long can I even cruise at 100 before I get a big, fat ticket? I'm more concerned about cruising comfort at 75-85. Cruising range on the S10 sounds much better than my Uly. Sometimes my gas light comes on after 130 miles, sometimes 150. I never know. I would like to be able to go more than 200 miles on a tank though and not have to worry so much on long distance trips. I have run out of fuel on the Uly as it can be too hard to gauge just how far it'll actually go.

Paulvt1 · 07-24-2011, 12:30 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing some owners fit a PCV and a full exhaust to the S10. I reckon that'll help fill in the hole in the midrange. If i keep mine, then that'll be my project this winter.

tremor38 · 07-24-2011, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by paul thompson

I'm looking forward to seeing some owners fit a PCV and a full exhaust to the S10. I reckon that'll help fill in the hole in the midrange. If i keep mine, then that'll be my project this winter.

What you refer to as a 'hole' in the midrange is actually very linear power delivery with absense of any mid-range rush. Take a look a the HP curve...there are no dips indicating any type of 'hole.' Not sure you can get what you want with a PCV and pipe, but it'll be interesting to see. Might be able to change the fuel delivery somewhat by going from perfect to imperfect, just to get the 'character' you are looking for.

Bundu · 07-24-2011, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tremor38

What you refer to as a 'hole' in the midrange is actually very linear power delivery with absense of any mid-range rush. Take a look a the HP curve...there are no dips indicating any type of 'hole.'

I still feel that my S10's delivery isn't linear - I feel a definite SURGE above 5500rpm

Paulvt1 · 07-24-2011, 02:07 AM

That's what i get. It just needs a bit more oomph in the 3-5000rpm range. One of the guys on the S10 forum has had an Akrapovic and PCV fitted and he reckons it makes the bike feel much better in said range. Still - it's a wonderfully useable bike and motor.

warnabrother · 07-24-2011, 02:18 AM

take a look here at the install instructions for the PCV.. http://www.powercommander.com/downlo.../eng22-041.pdf

take note of where the stock closed loop settings are to be left as stock i.e. not altered via the PCV but left to the O2 sensors to handle..

very interesting !!

EDIT - also very interesting.. I just downloaded the 2 maps dynojet have for the S10 and they show (in some areas) big reductions in fuel.. so one can assume the S10 runs quite rich from the factory and that is why adding a more free flowing filter helps..

Paulvt1 · 07-24-2011, 03:24 AM

Hmm. Very interesting. I wonder if there is any need for a PCV then? I'd be quite happy with a can, just to get rid of the big ugly standard unit. Might have to dabble when i've got some spare cash. I love the look of the Wasp unit - would suit my black bike to a tee - but i reckon i'll have a look at the Remus or Arrow options.

GrahamD · 07-24-2011, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by warnabrother

take a look here at the install instructions for the PCV.. http://www.powercommander.com/downlo.../eng22-041.pdf

take note of where the stock closed loop settings are to be left as stock i.e. not altered via the PCV but left to the O2 sensors to handle..

very interesting !!

EDIT - also very interesting.. I just downloaded the 2 maps dynojet have for the S10 and they show (in some areas) big reductions in fuel.. so one can assume the S10 runs quite rich from the factory and that is why adding a more free flowing filter helps..

Thanks for that info Warna.

warnabrother · 07-24-2011, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by paul thompson

Hmm. Very interesting. I wonder if there is any need for a PCV then? I'd be quite happy with a can, just to get rid of the big ugly standard unit. Might have to dabble when i've got some spare cash. I love the look of the Wasp unit - would suit my black bike to a tee - but i reckon i'll have a look at the Remus or Arrow options.

I got the Arrow.. because I got a super deal on it.. but it's not a svelte beauty like Wasp's.. but to be honest.. if ur going to run the exhaust cover (like I do) you can't see it anyway

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Originally Posted by GrahamD

Thanks for that info Warna.

no probs.. I already have the PCV software on my 'puter.. so was interested to see what they recommend for fuel adjustments.. even with an aftermarket pipe and filter they still remove fuel... these bikes must run rich as fark..

07-23-2011, 05:00 PM	#8731
tremor38 Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2006 Location: Japan Oddometer: 1,284	[QUOTE=Bryn1203;16462596 Off I went - firstly the S10 is very easy to ride - within seconds felt I right at home; it handles very well - surprisingly well - on battlewing rubber. Was in tour mode to start with - switched to 'Sport' and that made a real big difference - much quicker. But and its a big butt - it was still slower than expected. Slower than my Uly. Yes it cruises easily at 100mph but only had about 30mph left. It just does get the pulse raised under acceleration. To conclude - Great bike - well engineered and fantastic ride, greater comfort, brakes and all round ability but not fast enough for me. Gotta be honest.[/QUOTE] The cruising speed you state (100mph, but only had about 30mph left) is pretty close to that of a stock Uly, so I really don't see the problem.

07-23-2011, 06:48 PM	#8735
Animo Clear Clowdy Trails Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Playa del Carmen Oddometer: 3,101	Maybe he meant tanks are unstoppeable , my Supa sure feels unstoppeable. It is a tank compared to a GS. __________________ Life is good, even in adversity! Yucatan \| Chiapas \| Belize 1 \| Belize 2 \| QRoo \| Guanajuato

07-24-2011, 02:18 AM	#8742
warnabrother .. if you see the Rozzers Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Morn. Pen. Melbourne Oddometer: 2,021	take a look here at the install instructions for the PCV.. http://www.powercommander.com/downlo.../eng22-041.pdf take note of where the stock closed loop settings are to be left as stock i.e. not altered via the PCV but left to the O2 sensors to handle.. very interesting !! EDIT - also very interesting.. I just downloaded the 2 maps dynojet have for the S10 and they show (in some areas) big reductions in fuel.. so one can assume the S10 runs quite rich from the factory and that is why adding a more free flowing filter helps.. __________________ bikeless... warnabrother screwed with this post 07-24-2011 at 02:24 AM

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07-24-2011, 12:30 AM	#8738
Paulvt1 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Wolverhampton. England. Oddometer: 2,816	I'm looking forward to seeing some owners fit a PCV and a full exhaust to the S10. I reckon that'll help fill in the hole in the midrange. If i keep mine, then that'll be my project this winter.

07-24-2011, 02:07 AM	#8741
Paulvt1 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Wolverhampton. England. Oddometer: 2,816	That's what i get. It just needs a bit more oomph in the 3-5000rpm range. One of the guys on the S10 forum has had an Akrapovic and PCV fitted and he reckons it makes the bike feel much better in said range. Still - it's a wonderfully useable bike and motor.

07-24-2011, 03:24 AM	#8743
Paulvt1 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Wolverhampton. England. Oddometer: 2,816	Hmm. Very interesting. I wonder if there is any need for a PCV then? I'd be quite happy with a can, just to get rid of the big ugly standard unit. Might have to dabble when i've got some spare cash. I love the look of the Wasp unit - would suit my black bike to a tee - but i reckon i'll have a look at the Remus or Arrow options.