The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

[roarin calhoun]

Originally Posted by pluric

I have not, yet. When I read others wanting a lower fist gear I wonder what they're doing with it.

I've had it on a modestly steep rocky road and I felt first gear was fine for picking through the carnage.
Much lower would have felt too responsive. The feather light clutch pull is nice too.

For me, short of using it like a smaller bore trail bike, the stock gearing is fine.

My experience has been the same as yours. I gotta pict of the Tenere going up a steep ,rocky back mtn road covered with residual snow & mud,2 up,wife hit me & made me let her get off the bike after the picture. When she calmed down we rode to the top. Down the other side was REALLY steep. Snowmobeelers don't go there because of frequent avalanches. It was muddy & the wife,probably wisely, said "no,HELL no". I think the Tenere would have done just fine coming back up that. Didn't try it,dammit.

[Dallara]

Originally Posted by Tooth

I am a prior owner of a GSA I was hoping the S10 was a great alternative......another discussion
I hope I am not crashing this thread.
I saw my first S10 at a dealer and frankly was tremendously disappointed.
What is the crazy ass linkage issues with the shift lever? This assembly is expose, complicated and full view of attack by a spill. THe foot rests look cheap and locations of hoses and wires are in a great position to be stripped off.
Are my observations unfounded? anyone had issues with damage from brush or rocks?

Never had any problem with mine...

But then maybe I should ask you a question...

Why do you crash?

Dallara



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[20valves]

Originally Posted by Tooth

Are my observations unfounded?

Yes

Originally Posted by Tooth

anyone had issues with damage from brush or rocks?

No. And mine is 100% stock, no guards, covers or swingsets bolted to it.

[GrahamD]

Originally Posted by Tooth

I am a prior owner of a GSA I was hoping the S10 was a great alternative......another discussion
I hope I am not crashing this thread.
I saw my first S10 at a dealer and frankly was tremendously disappointed.
What is the crazy ass linkage issues with the shift lever? This assembly is expose, complicated and full view of attack by a spill. THe foot rests look cheap and locations of hoses and wires are in a great position to be stripped off.
Are my observations unfounded? anyone had issues with damage from brush or rocks?

I am a current Strom owner..

Saw a GS while out and about.

I mean what's with that crazy ass engine configuration with all the exposed expensive magnesium head covers and intakes and stuff.

At least Suzuki and KTM tuck tuck their expensive magnesium valve covers in a bit. The back ones should survive a train wreck.

I hope I'm not being offensive or anything but I was kind of really disappointed to have such expensive parts exposed like that.

And the clutch, a bit of work and that thing just starts stinking. How the hell is that going to survive for long if it gets treated rough.

And the other thing, why do they still run the alternator with a rubber band?

Nice paint though.

[pluric]

Originally Posted by 20valves

No. And mine is 100% stock, no guards, covers or swingsets bolted to it.

Blasphemy. Touratech and Altrider would like to have a word with you.

[roarin calhoun]

Originally Posted by GrahamD

Saw a GS while out and about.

I mean what's with that crazy ass engine configuration with all the exposed expensive magnesium head covers and intakes and stuff.

I hope I'm not being offensive or anything but I was kind of really disappointed to have such expensive parts exposed like that.

And the clutch, a bit of work and that thing just starts stinking. How the hell is that going to survive for long if it gets treated rough.

And the other thing, why do they still run the alternator with a rubber band?

Nice paint though.

Graham,you don't have to hit anything to break a beemer. At least I didn't. Was a very capable machine at breaking all by itself (both of 'em I had).

[GrahamD]

Originally Posted by roarin calhoun

Graham,you don't have to hit anything to break a beemer. At least I didn't. Was a very capable machine at breaking all by itself (both of 'em I had).

I am talking about after it has been fixed, then look at what can happen.

[roarin calhoun]

Originally Posted by GrahamD

I am talking about after it has been fixed, then look at what can happen.

Well, I have heard of "fixed" beemers. My 2 never were. Tenere now,Tenere fervermo (altho I am buying a WR250R Yammy for back country trips when my wife stays home).

[GrahamD]

Originally Posted by roarin calhoun

Well, I have heard of "fixed" beemers. My 2 never were. Tenere now,Tenere fervermo (altho I am buying a WR250R Yammy for back country trips when my wife stays home).

Pretty popular combo that. Some people even sell their S10 to buy one

[roarin calhoun]

Originally Posted by GrahamD

Pretty popular combo that. Some people even sell their S10 to buy one

I suppose. In some circumstances,I could understand that(selling a Tenere for a WR250R). But I'm sure not selling my Tenere. Most versatile bike I've ever owned.The WR will be insurance when alone in backcountry--it's lots easier to extracate from my many screwups.

[GrahamD]

Originally Posted by roarin calhoun

I suppose. In some circumstances,I could understand that(selling a Tenere for a WR250R). But I'm sure not selling my Tenere. Most versatile bike I've ever owned.The WR will be insurance when alone in backcountry--it's lots easier to extracate from my many screwups.

I said...some people even sell their pristine low Km S10 to get one <--

[Wasp]

Originally Posted by Tooth

I am a prior owner of a GSA I was hoping the S10 was a great alternative......another discussion
I hope I am not crashing this thread.
I saw my first S10 at a dealer and frankly was tremendously disappointed.
What is the crazy ass linkage issues with the shift lever? This assembly is expose, complicated and full view of attack by a spill. THe foot rests look cheap and locations of hoses and wires are in a great position to be stripped off.
Are my observations unfounded? anyone had issues with damage from brush or rocks?

CHILL OUT GUYS
There seams to be no scathing attack here. I thought the OP made a reasonable observation and posted a legitimate question.
Shit, i'd hate for the S10 threads to turn into something as one sided and arrogant minded as the oilheads threads.

I have sustained some minor damage with the shifter and linkages but nothing that left me immobilized or could not be fixed by the side of the track.

I took a thirty meter slide on a muddy bend and ended up in a puddle a couple of months back.
The only damage was a couple of minor abrasions on the front side cover and a slightly bent shift link arm.




See the shift link arm above: I rode the bike for another few weeks before I could be bothered straightening it.

Also bent the shift lever 180degrees backwards on another ride.
Strange because we were riding at low speed (lots of log crossings) and it was such a small log but must have just clipped the limb where it raised on the L/H side.


A five minute smoko break while I straightened (sort off) the lever out with a plug socket and we were back on the road.

This bike has done around 5k to 7k in this sort of environment and, apart from a few scratches and grazes, has sustained very little damage that that noted.
It has been dropped on rocks and done 30m slides on gravel roads and maybe been down 6 or 8 times in the last 18months so I recon it has held its own and seems to crash well.

The following video (looking for the trail opening for the first 40 seconds) is on a tight single trail that the GS1200R crashed on during the first run. You will see him sitting at the end of the trail when we emerge back on the gravel road.
The guy on the GS (ADV inmate - Bully) is an incredibly quick and smooth rider, but he found the trail a bit narrow and collected a tree with one of the pots sticking out the side.
Just goes to show that every machine has its Pros and Cons...


Greg.

[GrahamD]

Originally Posted by Wasp

CHILL OUT GUYS
There seams to be no scathing attack here. I thought the OP made a reasonable observation and posted a legitimate question.
Shit, i'd hate for the S10 threads to turn into something as one sided and arrogant minded as the oilheads threads

Greg.

My opinion was the words "tremendously disappointed" were just a bit over the top for someone who had previously owned a bike that had so many of it's own issues that COULD be seen as down right idiotic design for off road duties.

Much of the time it is as much an issue as the sticky outy oil filters. (Bugger all).

So fine, if he made an observation, but it looked more like a troll/astroturf job to me. (which worked ).

Maybe that's just the way they talk over in them GS threads. I don't know.

[roarin calhoun]

Hay wasp, nice videos. I agree,tooth's post & questions were quite reasonable.

[Dallara]

Originally Posted by roarin calhoun

...I agree,tooth's post & questions were quite reasonable.

I dunno'...

Originally Posted by GrahamD

My opinion was the words "tremendously disappointed" were just a bit over the top for someone who had previously owned a bike that had so many of it's own issues that COULD be seen as down right idiotic design for off road duties...

...but it looked more like a troll/astroturf job to me. (which worked ).

Gotta' agree with ya', Graham.

Sure looked, and sounded, that way to me, too.

Dallara



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