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Old 09-30-2012, 01:54 PM   #13741
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So my questions. How heavy does the Tenere feel/handle on country roads/twisties?( I realize it's not a sport bike just trying to gauge it against the XC) How expensive has the maintenance been? Have you had any traction control intervention when riding and how does it work? If anyone has the Yamaha panniers, what is the width with the panniers on?
It feels like it belongs there on twisty roads, that it is a enduro style bike gets noticeable at corners above around 130km/h. From that speed onwards you will feel that it slightly pushes wide over the front and you will have to work a little in corner combinations. On alpine pass style roads it is simply a blast to ride and won't feel heavy.

I dont really notice the traction control as intervention as in ignition is cut or something. On tarmac it is like a light starts flashing on the dash and acceleration continues within the tires limit, it is that smooth. Even when leaned over in a fast corner on semi knobbies like the k60 it is like that. I never noticed it as negative disruption of riding.

I have no exact measurement right now but the oem panniers are narrower than the bars. And because you have asked about panniers, it handles still very well with the loaded panniers.
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Old 09-30-2012, 01:56 PM   #13742
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It feels like it belongs there on twisty roads,
what he said
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Old 09-30-2012, 03:12 PM   #13743
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Thanks. I feel like I've been trying speaker systems and have tested one in a studio setting and the other on a boat zipping over the waves. Do the speakers I heard in the studio sound better? Heck yes, but is it the speakers or the setting? So, all your thoughts based on real, first-hand experience is what I need
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Old 09-30-2012, 03:31 PM   #13744
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Thanks. I feel like I've been trying speaker systems and have tested one in a studio setting and the other on a boat zipping over the waves. Do the speakers I heard in the studio sound better? Heck yes, but is it the speakers or the setting? So, all your thoughts based on real, first-hand experience is what I need
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Old 09-30-2012, 03:40 PM   #13745
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Thanks. I feel like I've been trying speaker systems and have tested one in a studio setting and the other on a boat zipping over the waves. Do the speakers I heard in the studio sound better? Heck yes, but is it the speakers or the setting? So, all your thoughts based on real, first-hand experience is what I need

Well, there is the "Search" function, and simply reading the Super Ténéré threads here...

And there is always the specific Yamaha Super Ténéré owners forum, where there is tons of info about any and all of the questions you're asking... That is unless you're just lazy...

Me? I've had my Super Ténéré since August 3, 2011, and have put more than 24,000 miles on mine. It handles great "on country roads/twisties"... I come from both MX and road racing and I've embarrassed many a sport bike with my S-10. For me it handles wonderfully.

As for your other questions... Maintenance expense has been typically Yamaha - nil. The traction control works great for me, and if you want an explanation of how it works Yamaha's web site has some info... But how can you compare the S-10's traction control to the Triumph's when Triumph doesn't offer traction control on their 800's?

Oh, and 34.75"...

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Old 09-30-2012, 05:38 PM   #13746
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Was out for my first real ride yesterday on my new S10 down through the ranges south of here. All bitumen.

In the group was a new Tiger XC800.. in the twisties I could easily keep up and I am surprised how easy to ride the big blue bastard is!

The only limits in the twisties against the Tiger was that I am wary of police with radar and he apparently isn't!

Hence he neat me to the bottom on one leg of the trip home!

It is my belief that the S10 is a whole lot of bike for the money and the best long distance tourer around in the ADV segment.
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Old 09-30-2012, 06:09 PM   #13747
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Thanks. I feel like I've been trying speaker systems and have tested one in a studio setting and the other on a boat zipping over the waves. Do the speakers I heard in the studio sound better? Heck yes, but is it the speakers or the setting? So, all your thoughts based on real, first-hand experience is what I need
I can relate to that.

So to use the speaker analogy, The S10 is sort of like the speaker that is flat and accurate, where the Tiger has some rough spots but gives it some excitement initially on a short listen. Some will love it for a long time, some will be trading it in on an S10 sooner or later.

All your music will sound better on the S10 speakers, where the Tiger speakers some will sound a lot better and some you won't listen to anymore.

It's sort of like that whether you listen to music on a boat or not.

I used to work with loudspeakers.

The other funny thing I was tossing up between the two as well, but the more I looked into the S10 the more I saw that was good design. Very few pieces were stupid or built just for the test rides.

So it was more of a considered opinion about what I did and what was most applicable, rather than going "That was nice here's my money": and finding out later that it wasn't exactly me.

The S10 has a set of compromises that evens it out over lots of terrain and conditions. You can believe the owners and you can believe that the bike will do some crazy things and keep taking abuse all day long. But it was intended as an all road all conditions bike, that makes the task of long distance travel easy and safe in many conditions.

It's up to you whether that is your thing or not.

So here are some things that YAMAHA has done.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:35 AM   #13748
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Was out for my first real ride yesterday on my new S10 down through the ranges south of here. All bitumen.

In the group was a new Tiger XC800.. in the twisties I could easily keep up and I am surprised how easy to ride the big blue bastard is!

The only limits in the twisties against the Tiger was that I am wary of police with radar and he apparently isn't!

Hence he neat me to the bottom on one leg of the trip home!

It is my belief that the S10 is a whole lot of bike for the money and the best long distance tourer around in the ADV segment.
You are right on the money there Happy!
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:09 AM   #13749
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How heavy does the Tenere feel/handle on country roads/twisties?

It doesn't.

How expensive has the maintenance been?

Depends on what kind of oil you use. Some oil is cheaper than others.

Have you had any traction control intervention when riding and how does it work?

Always. It works great.

If anyone has the Yamaha panniers, what is the width with the panniers on?

Same as the handlebar.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:15 PM   #13750
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Me? It handles great "on country roads/twisties"... I come from both MX and road racing and I've embarrassed many a sport bike with my S-10. For me it handles wonderfully.
Word that. Of course Dallara blew me off the road a couple weeks back riding in Arkansas. Perfect example of "it's the rider, not the ride".
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:20 PM   #13751
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Altrider crash bars

OK team.. who has fitted altrider crash bars to their S10?

Put your hands up.

Now keep your hands up if you can remove the right hand side cover with the bars on without damaging the paint on the cover as it rubs on the crash bars?

Anybody?

I have had to drape an old towel over the cover to protect it from the crash bars.

Am I the only one??
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:31 PM   #13752
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OK team.. who has fitted altrider crash bars to their S10?

Put your hands up.

Now keep your hands up if you can remove the right hand side cover with the bars on without damaging the paint on the cover as it rubs on the crash bars?

Anybody?

I have had to drape an old towel over the cover to protect it from the crash bars.

Am I the only one??
I don't have the altrider bars, but only first edition owners will have the silver painted side covers.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:53 AM   #13753
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Fitted some short levers. E-Bay purchase, £22 (US$35) including free shipping from China. Seem to be well made and are a perfect fit.



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Old 10-02-2012, 05:57 AM   #13754
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I don't have the altrider bars, but only first edition owners will have the silver painted side covers.
^^^ This.

I have them on my black 2012 and they DO rub, but it's only the unpainted dull black plastic that rubs. It rubs pretty hard, but it's a non-issue on mine.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:04 AM   #13755
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OK team.. who has fitted altrider crash bars to their S10?

Put your hands up.

Now keep your hands up if you can remove the right hand side cover with the bars on without damaging the paint on the cover as it rubs on the crash bars?

Anybody?

I have had to drape an old towel over the cover to protect it from the crash bars.

Am I the only one??
I have the Altrider crash bars and I have been able to remove the left and the right without damaging the covers. I remember it being tricky but I was able to do it.
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