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Old 11-07-2012, 08:51 AM   #14176
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I am not a fan of ABS. I’d like to turn it off
FWIW, I have a ABS switch on my Tenere and I never use it. It took me 6 months to trust the ABS but now that I do, it's grab a handful of front and the big girl just plain stops, and yes I do ride the pig off road, a lot!
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:54 AM   #14177
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Any warranty issues with the Tenere? Are they difficult to service, valve adjustments what have you? Are the wheels holding up from rough riding?
I am not a fan of ABS. I’d like to turn it off
You're basing that on how other brands systems work. You have to try this bike
on and off road. Non issue.

Did you ask about the wheels??? Hit a nerve there.

I would not call it a problem with owners. I just happened to get the one bike with butter rims.
Keep an eye on the spokes for the first while too.

I did start this thread out of curiosity and it remains pretty stagnant.
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=809307

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Old 11-07-2012, 09:04 AM   #14178
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You're basing that on how other brands systems work. You have to try this bike
on and off road. Non issue.

Did you ask about the wheels??? Hit a nerve there.

I would not call it a problem with owners. I just happened to get the one bike with butter rims.
Keep an eye on the spokes for the first while too.
Pluric got the prototype bike with the experimental warranty check wheels.

Most of us mere mortals do not have that problem.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:25 AM   #14179
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You're basing that on how other brands systems work. You have to try this bike
on and off road. Non issue.
Yeah, well, I have heard stuff like that before and in my experience it is not to be believed.
I hate the ABS system on my bike; there is nothing I like about it. And if I buy a Tenere I am going to use it off road quite a bit, going down step rough freaking hills. There are times one needs to lock a wheel.
The dealer here won’t give me a test ride but I should be abel to disabel ABS?


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Did you ask about the wheels??? Hit a nerve there.
I would not call it a problem with owners. I just happened to get the one bike with butter rims.
Keep an eye on the spokes for the first while too.
I did start this thread out of curiosity and it remains pretty stagnant.
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=809307
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:26 AM   #14180
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Pluric got the prototype bike with the experimental warranty check wheels.

Most of us mere mortals do not have that problem.


Let's just leave it at I better be on Woody's Christmas card list.

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Old 11-07-2012, 09:35 AM   #14181
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Yeah, well, I have heard stuff like that before and in my experience it is not to be believed.
I hate the ABS system on my bike; there is nothing I like about it. And if I buy a Tenere I am going to use it off road quite a bit, going down step rough freaking hills. There are times one needs to lock a wheel.
The dealer here won’t give me a test ride but I should be abel to disabel ABS?
You calling me a liar??? Well, I NEVER! Humphh.

You can throw it on the center stand and rotate the rear wheel to disable the ABS.
Only lasts till the key gets turned off.

Look back at where jaumev or Wasp take their bikes. Mine has had a rough life too.
Last weekend I had to up and down a rock, root, rutted, wet, slimey trail and starting down
I thought the same thing if this bike free wheels on me or I can't completely control the brakes I'm screwed.
I didn't even fall, Can't always say that.

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Old 11-07-2012, 09:42 AM   #14182
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FWIW, I have a ABS switch on my Tenere !
You do? How is that hooked up?
Just take it as granted I am not going to like ABS , anywhere. I Ilike to use the brakes and be in complet control of them. It is a lot more fun for me
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:58 AM   #14183
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Just take it as granted I am not going to like ABS
Yeah, that's always a good policy, trash something endlessly without ever having tried it.

I don't worry about ABS, more about simply stopping. That's what happens when you use the Tenere's brakes, you simply stop.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:05 AM   #14184
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Yeah, that's always a good policy, trash something endlessly without ever having tried it.

I don't worry about ABS, more about simply stopping. That's what happens when you use the Tenere's brakes, you simply stop.
I hate ABS too, and got the Tenere and I still hate ABS even on this motorcycle, but hate it less than I thought I would. Great motorcycle, but if I had choice I would opt for non-ABS if it was offered.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:16 AM   #14185
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Yeah, that's always a good policy, trash something endlessly without ever having tried it.
I have ABS on my GS and absolutely hate it. It has just been a source for close calls for me. And my bike is a lot more fun to ride with ABS off and I have better control of the bike.

My GS stops great without ABS.

It would be nice if the dealer here would let me give the Tenere a try.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:24 AM   #14186
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Great motorcycle, but if I had choice I would opt for non-ABS if it was offered.
What is going on here, one guy says he has an ABS switch on his bike?

Could I not disable ABS by removing a front wheel sensor or something along those lines
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:36 AM   #14187
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What is going on here, one guy says he has an ABS switch on his bike?

Could I not disable ABS by removing a front wheel sensor or something along those lines
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:43 AM   #14188
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I have ABS on my GS and absolutely hate it. It has just been a source for close calls for me. And my bike is a lot more fun to ride with ABS off and I have better control of the bike.

My GS stops great without ABS.


It would be nice if the dealer here would let me give the Tenere a try.


*NOBODY* hated, detested, and criticized ABS on motorcycles more than I used to (check out R1150R forums a few years ago), but that was back in my BMW-owning days. Nothing was more abysmal and worthy of disdain that BMW's idiotic, wooden-feeling, pulsing, no-stopping excuse for an ABS system. Impossible to properly modulate on- or off-road, and downright dangerous on any sort of dust, dirt, or loose surface - on-pavement or off-.

Hell, it was often even lousy and unpredictable on wet pavement... The very place it was initially designed to be most effective!!!

Yes, they've tried to make it better over in Munich, but IMHO they still aren't even close.

Yamaha's system, OTOH, is a completely different kettle of brake pads, however. Try and have an open mind and listen to what some of the community here is trying to tell you.

When I got my '06 FJR I *HATED* that I could only get the bike with ABS, and had every intention of somehow disabling it after I bought it. But the more I had it the more I realized I honestly never *noticed* the ABS. It was, by and large, entirely transparent and felt - and operated - no different than a non-ABS system. After some time I did notice I could *beat* it - i.e. brake in a situation where the ABS activated yet I was sure I could do a better job if it would just leave me alone... But those situations were far more rare than they were common. At least it didn't give up the ghost and stop braking altogether on loose surfaces.

Still, up to the day I sold it I wished they had offered it without ABS, or that I had installed a switch.

But then enter the Super Ténéré...

Like you, and so many others, *BEFORE I OWNED AND RODE ONE*, I started researching disabling the ABS system with some sort of switch. I even almost pulled the trigger and ordered such a switch kit from across the pond. Then I actually got the bike a few months earlier than expected (due to the tsunami USA models were once scheduled for November, but then they arrived in late July), and I rode it...

I quickly learned this was like no ABS system I had ever encountered, and a whole quantum leap even beyond the FJR. I've tried to *beat* it, both on- and off-road, and just like others here have stated, the system just flat *WORKS*!!! No drama. No tense moments. Never a feeling that it will just *freewheel* ahead like a BMW on loose surfaces. Nope, The bike just *STOPS* - or slows just as you would want it - period.

Like others have said - try it before you dismiss it. I think you might be pleasantly surprised.

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Old 11-07-2012, 11:04 AM   #14189
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Thanks, I can disable ABS on the Tenere that is what I really wanted to be sure of.

If one reads the forums here there are endless testimonials for ABS and I have just hated the ABS system on my GS. I would not have it again if I had a choice.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:11 AM   #14190
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I concur. Dallara has ton of experience. Just not a lot of experience of saying things in one breath.

It does seem BMW has given motorcycle ABS a bad name. I used to feel stupid because I couldn't
tell the difference riding the Yamaha. I just couldn't feel any of the symtoms people complain about
on other brands. I still feel stupid, but now it's about other things.
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