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Old 12-18-2012, 07:38 PM   #14791
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I've been on the fence for a while now about buying this bike. There are some good deals out there. Then it happened. I started reading up on the Ducati Multistrada 1200S. Oh my, what a bike, especially the 2013 with the active suspension! I'm in love.

Any reason I should forget the Ducati and go with our Japanese friend?
If you want a bullet-proof bike that you can just gas up and ride, get the S10.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:16 PM   #14792
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I've been on the fence for a while now about buying this bike. There are some good deals out there. Then it happened. I started reading up on the Ducati Multistrada 1200S. Oh my, what a bike, especially the 2013 with the active suspension! I'm in love.

Any reason I should forget the Ducati and go with our Japanese friend?
Do you see yourself going down roads like this?


Or doing this?


If so, get the Tenere.

I'm sure the Multistrada is a wonderful bike, and if I lived somewhere with twisty paved roads and a dealer nearby I'd consider it. We have to get our jollies off pavement around here though, so I got the Tenere.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:20 PM   #14793
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I've been on the fence for a while now about buying this bike. There are some good deals out there. Then it happened. I started reading up on the Ducati Multistrada 1200S. Oh my, what a bike, especially the 2013 with the active suspension! I'm in love.

Any reason I should forget the Ducati and go with our Japanese friend?
buy the S10 but hang out at the Ducati booth


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Old 12-18-2012, 09:05 PM   #14794
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Contest will be a little more even then.
Clutch mod and reflash still got my ass handed to me. Not even close.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:08 PM   #14795
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I've been on the fence for a while now about buying this bike. There are some good deals out there. Then it happened. I started reading up on the Ducati Multistrada 1200S. Oh my, what a bike, especially the 2013 with the active suspension! I'm in love.

Any reason I should forget the Ducati and go with our Japanese friend?
Buy the Ducati. It's faster than the BMW and isn't that really what it's all about?
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:13 PM   #14796
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Clutch mod and reflash still got my ass handed to me. Not even close.
Slight hijack but did you do the clutch mod after you got the reflash? I thought the reflash eliminated the need for it.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:16 PM   #14797
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Clutch mod and reflash still got my ass handed to me. Not even close.
Yep, right up to when the tow truck showed up...

BMW + POS dealer queen.

Faster? Quicker? Are you just idiots? Farther is the real question. BMW service intervals and dealer only idiot lights should be enough to answer your question if you actually ride the bike. Never mind the incompetence of the German engineers.

The only reason to buy a BMW is if you own part share in a BMW dealership.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:50 PM   #14798
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buy the S10 but hang out at the Ducati booth



Hmmmmm.....
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:57 PM   #14799
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Slight hijack but did you do the clutch mod after you got the reflash? I thought the reflash eliminated the need for it.
Just being redundant. With the clutch mod it can still be a little too strong right off idle off road.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:36 PM   #14800
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Yep, right up to when the tow truck showed up...

BMW + POS dealer queen.

Faster? Quicker? Are you just idiots? Farther is the real question. BMW service intervals and dealer only idiot lights should be enough to answer your question if you actually ride the bike. Never mind the incompetence of the German engineers.

The only reason to buy a BMW is if you own part share in a BMW dealership.
Pretty much everyone here bought a big D/S bike to win drag races.

The gentleman whos GS 1200 I ran off with last GS 1150 had over 80,000 miles with
only normal seal changes. This thread is full of past BMW owners who switched for
a reason. I didn't buy a BMW for several reasons. I tend to always buy Japanese bikes.

His GS had nice suspension and the brakes were exceptional. Better passing power
and felt very planted in the turns. I'm not planning on running down to the dealer
to sign up. The peace of mind thing means a lot to me, even if just imagined.

"Incompetence of German engineers"? Really??? Maybe they could hire you as
a consultant.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:56 PM   #14801
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Never mind the incompetence of the German engineers.
They should hire you to explain to them how to build a motorcycle. Excuse my words, but it rather seems that your expressions are more fitting to you yourself than anybody else ...
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:30 AM   #14802
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Just being redundant. With the clutch mod it can still be a little too strong right off idle off road.
Sounds like I was wrong in thinking the low-end response with the reflash would be as just strong as it is with the clutch mod. How much softer is it?
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:01 AM   #14803
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pluric!

You have to remove the 300lbs of tents, sleeping bags,pot and pans if you want to drag race a BMW. I raced my pals 08 GS12 with my S10 and I jump slightly ahead up to 60mph then he pulls ahead. The 2010 GSs are faster still than the 08s. The S10 is definitly gruntier down low though, like at 2000rpm where the Beamers just about stall. Both great bikes and I've had both. Overall I'll take my S10 anytime.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:02 AM   #14804
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headlight bulb tab position?

Today I swapped out the OEM Philips H7 bulbs for Philips Extreme Vision and being used to 3-tab H4s, which only slot in one way, I didn't pay attention to the tab placement when I pulled out the OEM bulbs. Wondering whether the single tab goes in the 12:00 position as it doesn't fit neatly into that slot there, or anywhere else for that matter (tried to fit it in the wider slot in the 7:00 position resulting in a crap beam pattern). Clarification much appreciated.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:48 AM   #14805
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Sounds like I was wrong in thinking the low-end response with the reflash would be as just strong as it is with the clutch mod. How much softer is it?
The reflash removes the off idle hiccup, smooths out the throttle response, removes the lower
gear neutering, and by seat of the pants improves the higher gear performance as well.

It's also been dyno tested to improve HP.

To me there is still a tinge more umphh just off idle with the clutch mod. I may just
pull the fuse and forget about it. It was a sort of "everyone else is doing it" jump on the
band wagon sort of thing anyway. I still highly recommend the reflash.
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