|01-30-2010, 08:30 AM||#1|
Joined: Jan 2010
Location: Candlewood Lake, Fairfield Co, CT
That's the Brakes or Questions About HH Pads
Want to put HH brake pads on a new (190 miles) Kaw W650, a bike not known for it's great brakes.
First, do HH pads make a big difference in stopping power? Will there be a noticeable reduction in stopping distance?
Second, Galfer and EBC pads are about the same price. Any reason for or against one or the other, and why?
|01-30-2010, 09:30 AM||#2|
Joined: Dec 2009
Location: Georgia USA
there will not be any difference in stopping power in fact the stock pads are about as good as its going to get, if you want better stopping power you will need to change the rotor and the pads plus fit braided lines and run better (higher boiling temp) fluid
|01-30-2010, 12:19 PM||#3|
Feral Chia tamer
Joined: Feb 2004
Location: Left of the dial. Canton, NC
I have to say I disagree. HH Sintered pads have a higher coefficient of friction compared to organic pads.
Dunlopad HHs made a big difference on many of the bikes I've had. To the OP. also
be aware, in my experience HHs work better once you get some heat in them.
3 or 4 stops is usually sufficient though. In my personal experience DP pads
have more initial bite and no grabbiness. EBC HHs have been very grabby for me.
I.E. they're a bit herky jerky as you're slowing down. I do not like them.
I've never used Galfers.
I should add, HHs will feel much better once broken which will take several miles
on the street. At the first stop you'll think they're horrible but give them a few miles
and they'll be great.
Mutt'n the custard.
On the outside with my back turned.
|01-30-2010, 06:20 PM||#4|
Old Enough To Know Better
Joined: Feb 2005
Location: Merritt Island, FL
Likewise, I agree that HH pads will have both greater intial bite (the first H) and greater fade resistance/stopping power/friction(the second H).
I ran EBC HH Sintergrip on both the Ducatis I had with thousands of track miles and more thousands of street miles. I liked the feel wet or dry and under all riding conditions. Have never used Galfer HH yet. Very soon EBC HH will go on my R80 ST along with a new Prolite rotor, braid hose, etc. Some folks claim sintered pads cause faster rotor wear. Never saw that on the stainless rotors I've run. I have heard of problems using sintered pads on some types of cst iron rotors that led to heat cracking and rotor breakage
On my dual sport F650 I run Galfer Green pads up front to minimze initial bite on unpaved surfaces without giving up much fade resistance. I run Galfer Black pads on the rear which give a better feel and modulation on the back brake. The greens do wear fast - 25-30K miles on the first set I used.
Merritt Island, FL
When a person asks you for advice, they don't want advice. They want corroboration.
|01-31-2010, 05:32 PM||#5|
Back in the game again
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: Chester County, PA
Nothing to add except that the Galfer folks are top notch to deal with. Great product and great people supporting it!
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