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Old 02-11-2010, 08:33 PM   #16
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I've been admiring the Wolfman racks but have another question.

What hard bags will mount up them in case I want to really take a long trip?

For example, the Happy Trails Teton series (9" pannier) is rated just 40 Liters. That is nearly as much in one side as the Wolfman bags combined will hold.

So I like the Wolfman product appearance -- and the fact that the racks do not wrap around the rear wheel like the HT racks, but do they leave me a hard bag option?
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:27 PM   #17
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Well, let's see:
1. Welding equipment $500-$3000 depending
2. Welding classes and certification $5000
3. Small Business License & Taxes & Insurance $3000 at least
4. Shop Space
5. Paint equipment $2000
6. Materials $10.00
7. Jig set-up 4-8 hours (first time)
8. Labor maybe 4 hours at 60-70 bucks an hour
9. American Made?? Priceless

Yep, $250 sounds like a deal to me

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I am fine with their pricing. They can charge whatever they want. I am still probably going to buy them as my next bags. But I am pretty sure they don't pay their welders 60-70 an hour. I'm sure it's under $20 and probably in the $15-10 range.

I don't think it's a deal, but I'm content with shelling out that price.
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:39 PM   #18
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I am not an engineer but would guess that the racks are plenty sturdy to hold a big hard box, use mounting hardware like fatchance used with his pelican cases and I am sure it would work, but just my opinion.

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I've been admiring the Wolfman racks but have another question.

What hard bags will mount up them in case I want to really take a long trip?

For example, the Happy Trails Teton series (9" pannier) is rated just 40 Liters. That is nearly as much in one side as the Wolfman bags combined will hold.

So I like the Wolfman product appearance -- and the fact that the racks do not wrap around the rear wheel like the HT racks, but do they leave me a hard bag option?
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Old 02-12-2010, 10:04 AM   #19
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Looking at the design, and all the cinch straps it looks good. Real good.

Quesiton though, the outer material, how well do you in the peanut gallery think it would get along with gas? It looks (without having seen a set in person) as if one might be able to hook up one or two small (MSR Bottles?) to the outside with out much issue. And if there was some fuel on the outside of the bottle, would that damage the material?

I ask only cause I know some water-resistant materials don't like gasoline all that much... Especially the rubber based types.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:20 AM   #20
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Nice if they'd make a set compatable for the WR250R...
in the wrr thread i read they were looking for a design bike so expect them sometime soon. wolfman is about luggage for all adv bikes so expect the list to grow over time.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:28 AM   #21
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i would look at ms panniers if you want hard boxes for the dr.
http://www.mspanniers.com/brackets.htm
they have 3 points of attachmnet vrs 2 for these and are designed with a avail bracket to use pelican cases. these racks look like they would need alot more work to get a pelican mounted and the price is similar between the 2 so why not go with the stronger design and prebuild mount system. expect to be in for about $500. these racks are optimized for wolfman luggage.

fyi you can go as small as a 1500 pelican w/ ms pannier mount. fatchance uses a 1520 case.

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I've been admiring the Wolfman racks but have another question.

What hard bags will mount up them in case I want to really take a long trip?

For example, the Happy Trails Teton series (9" pannier) is rated just 40 Liters. That is nearly as much in one side as the Wolfman bags combined will hold.

So I like the Wolfman product appearance -- and the fact that the racks do not wrap around the rear wheel like the HT racks, but do they leave me a hard bag option?
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:48 AM   #22
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Looking at the design, and all the cinch straps it looks good. Real good.

Quesiton though, the outer material, how well do you in the peanut gallery think it would get along with gas? It looks (without having seen a set in person) as if one might be able to hook up one or two small (MSR Bottles?) to the outside with out much issue. And if there was some fuel on the outside of the bottle, would that damage the material?

I ask only cause I know some water-resistant materials don't like gasoline all that much... Especially the rubber based types.
http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/Access...e_holster.html

Already done!

Ordered one of their new Dry Line duffle bags. Took it to New Zealand in January. It's expensive but I feel the quality is first class! Just ordered a set of racks and Dry Line saddlebags for my DR.

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Old 02-12-2010, 12:07 PM   #23
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http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/Access...side_rack.html

since Wolfman makes dirtbag's bags i thought eventually you get waterproof dirtbags like wolfman's new waterproof line. maybe that will still happen one.

these racks are diff. and IMO are better than what dirtbags are doing however much more $.

you get 38L for $400+ with room on the top rack.
as a comparison you get 50L for $400 & 30L for $300 from giant loop.
http://www.giantloopmoto.com/collect...ear-collection
The wolfman alfa rear bag is 51L based on dimensions (h, l, and w) and costs $160.00.--which is honestly a more fair comparison to giantloop bags, since they are so similar. Material of the alpha bag is stout, but the giant loop bags have the edge. For another 40.00 bucks or so, you can go to REI.com and get a couple waterproof stuff sacks for added protection in the alfa...although I have never had any gear stowed in my alpha bag get wet from rain...
I really like the giantloop coyote (30L capacity), but I already have the wolfman alpha for my KLR; if strapped on correctly, it doesn't move. More than 10,000 miles on the bag, and it hasn't failed yet.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:45 PM   #24
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really[/b] like the giantloop coyote (30L capacity), but I already have the wolfman alpha for my KLR; if strapped on correctly, it doesn't move. More than 10,000 miles on the bag, and it hasn't failed yet.

Do you have side bags along with the alpha? Does the alpha hang over to far to use Dirtbagz or similar? I really like the Wolfman gear and I really like the Dirtbagz. The new Wolfman racks look real good and the whole Wolfman system may be the way to go..................................on a KLR of course
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:56 PM   #25
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http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/Access...e_holster.html

Already done!

Ordered one of their new Dry Line duffle bags. Took it to New Zealand in January. It's expensive but I feel the quality is first class! Just ordered a set of racks and Dry Line saddlebags for my DR.

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You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you. And obviously that does answer that I suppose...

Now, one more year then Alaska bound. I think two 1 liter per side should be good enough for a reserve? Right? And between these and my Wolfman Alpha I should have enough storage (and then), right?

I hope......
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:48 AM   #26
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I'm pretty much down to a rack decision between the Happy Trails SU racks the Wolfman racks.

My question about the Wolfman racks is this --

"When installed do the Wolfman racks allow enough space on the left side for a 3.5 inch diameter PVC tube to be used for tool kit storage?"

Feedback from a WM rack owner on this would be appreciated.
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:03 AM   #27
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I think it does, I can measure when I get home if you like.
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I'm in the process of copying this right now.

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Old 03-08-2010, 10:08 AM   #29
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I'm in the process of copying this right now.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...415263&page=19
Thanks! You have just answered my question fully.

I am also looking at that canister for the stowage. I have a Helen Two-wheels tool roll with a velcro strap. Seems it will be ideal.
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Old 04-03-2010, 07:29 PM   #30
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New question.

A local friend who also rides a DR650 ordered the Wolfman side racks. He has not yet installed them and we were looking at them this evening. The racks are very well made.

But -- we both have the Suzuki OEM tail rack, and it seems the Wolfman racks are designed to mount right next to the frame. The problem is, there is no space between the frame and that Suzuki tail rack.

When we held the Wolfman racks up to the outside of the tail rack where the bolts recess, it appeared the brackets would not fasten properly at the rear foot-peg mounts.

So how do the Wolfman racks mount on the DR650 with the Suzuki tail rack without being in a bind?
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