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Old 08-11-2013, 08:51 AM   #17191
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I am thinking that, some day, one of the Korean bike manufacturers will take something like the 650cc v-twin like the Hyosung GT (over 80hp 6 speeds 8 valves liquid cooled with a CARBURETER) and offer a lower powered, say 60hp at the rear wheel, tuned for grunt, with the upside down fork, twin disc with ABS the only option. All packaged into a stout frame with a solid back end and shock. Decent windshield and no frills, spoked (along the outside of the rim like the big GS) wheels, and a decent seat. Enough suspension for decent ground clearance and make the thing with heavy duty paint, and a powerful enough alternator for electric clothing.
They would sell a boatload of them. Make the air cleaner and battery easy to access, provide a good tool space, and a rear rack.
Sell it for under $7,500 with a worldwide warranty for 2 years.
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:59 AM   #17192
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Kind of like this:

http://carduccidualsport.com/content/8-gallery
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:11 AM   #17193
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I am thinking that, some day, one of the Korean bike manufacturers will take something like the 650cc v-twin like the Hyosung GT (over 80hp 6 speeds 8 valves liquid cooled with a CARBURETER) and offer a lower powered, say 60hp at the rear wheel, tuned for grunt, with the upside down fork, twin disc with ABS the only option. All packaged into a stout frame with a solid back end and shock. Decent windshield and no frills, spoked (along the outside of the rim like the big GS) wheels, and a decent seat. Enough suspension for decent ground clearance and make the thing with heavy duty paint, and a powerful enough alternator for electric clothing.
They would sell a boatload of them. Make the air cleaner and battery easy to access, provide a good tool space, and a rear rack.
Sell it for under $7,500 with a worldwide warranty for 2 years.
MikeMike,
That would be nice. It'll have to be either the Koreans or the Taiwanese to do it at a reasonable price point. Oh wait ! I just saw a unicorn walk by.
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Old 08-11-2013, 10:01 AM   #17194
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Damn, wish I had seen that...I just saw a pig fly by!
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Old 08-11-2013, 11:23 AM   #17195
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I went for an impromptu 3 day ride last week. Left San Miguel de Allende, intending to ride the cuotas all the way to Zihuatanejo, but rain around Patzcuaro convinced me to overnight there on night one. The next day I decided to replicate some of the ride that Jimmex, Tricepilot, Schizzman and I made last January, from Apatzingan but going straight down towards the coast, rather than the detour we took toward Colima/Comala. Only problem was that the maps I had hurriedly stuffed into my topbox ended right around Uruapan, so I was using my memory to put me on the right road out of Apatzingan.


Patzcuaro




All I can say is that the road I exited Apatzingan looked kinda like the road we'd ridden in January, but after 25 miles or so I began to realize that I had probably made a mistake. I decided to just keep riding and see where it took me. After a lot of topes, the road eventually began winding its way up into the coastal range of Michoacan. Very beautiful. Eventually I got to the town of Aguililla. This town was occupied by more Federal police and federal troops than any place I've been in Mexico. There had to be 50 Federale cars, and armored trucks parked around the plaza. There were additional federal troops in camo patrolling the area.


Volcanic peak near Colima, (I didn't ride here onthis trip, but it is in the general area).

I stopped for lunch just at the edge of town, and asked some of the locals if there are this many policia around the town all the time, to which I was told yes, they are here every day. I got a nice grin from one of the soldiers as a troop transport drove by my lunch stop. Just after that I saw a local walk by with a "Libre Aguililla" T-shirt on. This town is obviously occupied territory.

I hadn't read much news lately, but after my return I saw this article aboutabout what had occurred just before my arrival in Michoacan. That violence was centered around the town of Los Reyes, which we had ridden right through last January. Once again, I had skated thru Mexico with only good experiences, but as with much of life, I think that timing is everything. Would I ride to Aguililla again? Probably not. That is not so much because I feel the area to be inherently unsafe, but rather because of the long ride thru tope central before you get to the fun part of the ride, and because there is no egress other than the road you came in on.


Mountains of Michoacan

The route on day2

My total detour off the cuota at Nueva Italia had amounted to about 260 km, and when I got back to Nueva Italia, it was only about 3 PM, so I decided to make a [long] day of it and ride the libre to the coast at Playa Azul. This is an extremely twisty section of road, and while I enjoyed it, I was thoroughly exhausted by the time I reached playa Azul 3 hours later. I would recommend leaving a little more time if you ride this stretch.

As I neared Playa Azul, the thunderstorm that had been in the far distance most of the way down the libre began to break. As I made it through the last twists and turns of the libre, the storm gusts started and began to spritz water on my face. As I rode into Playa Azul it was still just threatening to rain, when the heavens were split asunder. I quickly found a beach restaurant that happened to have a covered parking space for about 4 cars, and pulled in. I sat there with the owner drinking a beer, and smoking cigarettes as we watched the street flood to about 6 inches of water. The restaurant closed, but left me to enjoy the view of the flooded street until the rain stopped and the water began to recede a bit. I rode a few blocks and found what is probably the nicest hotel in town. Can't remember the name of it but it was located a few blocks to the south off the main drag coming into town on Av. Independencia, and it has AC and a bar/restaurant on the premises. My room was very nice for 450 pesos. This was the first time I stayed in Playa Azul, and I didn't particularly care for it. I think the next time, I would time my ride to overnight somewhere else.


Melaque, (again, I was not here on this trip, the pics are just to keep the visually oriented still with me.)

Day 3 was a hammer up the cuota which included too many stops to plug a nail hole in my rear tire and air up. For the record, it took about 6-1/2 to 7 hours riding at fairly high speed.
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Old 08-11-2013, 12:28 PM   #17196
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MikeMike,
That would be nice. It'll have to be either the Koreans or the Taiwanese to do it at a reasonable price point. Oh wait ! I just saw a unicorn walk by.
Or the TerraMostro.

"From Overland Motorcycles
We talk about it all the time... the dual sport we really need... that nobody is building.

So one day we got tired of talking about it, and built the bike that dual sport die hards like us were dreaming of... A light weight way to travel light that works, is fun, and passes the "ugly check
".



It was seriously tempting me a few years ago but the $17,000 cost of admission was just too steep. 370lbs with a Ducati twin would have been a blast. Looks like their website is no more so obviously nobody wanted the "dual sport we really need".
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Old 08-11-2013, 12:49 PM   #17197
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The perfect dirt bike (or street bike, for that matter) for Mexico is typically the one already in the garage. Check the tires, the battery, and tape a spare key to the frame.

Then go, take pics, and report back
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Old 08-11-2013, 12:50 PM   #17198
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Everybody wanted it, but at a manageable price.
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Old 08-11-2013, 12:51 PM   #17199
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The next day I decided to replicate some of the ride that Jimmex, Tricepilot, Schizzman and I made last January, from Apatzingan but going straight down towards the coast, rather than the detour we took toward Colima/Comala.
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:13 PM   #17200
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The perfect dirt bike (or street bike, for that matter) for Mexico anywhere is typically the one already in the garage. Check the tires, the battery, and tape a spare key to the frame.

Then go, take pics, and report back
Fixt

But seriously that Carducci has a lot of appeal. No valves to adjust, simple air cleaner to service. I love my Tiger but servicing the air filter on a multi day dual sport ride is not fun.
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:21 PM   #17201
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Greetings...

I'm new to the forum and also to adventure riding. I'm planning to take a trip late December - Jan (around the holidays) to explore Central America traveling as far as I can South for 4 weeks (roundtrip). I will be crossing the border Brownsville, TX. One of those... non rushed, enjoy the culture rides. If time permits, I would like to also visit Guatemala and or Belize however, I'm finding out real quick... 4 weeks is just not enough time to go and come back on a relaxed ride.

Anyway,
What kind of weather should I expect during that time of the year there? I believe the rainy season would be over but I'm sure a lot of water would still be around.

Thank you in advance.
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:24 PM   #17202
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I love my Tiger but servicing the air filter on a multi day dual sport ride is not fun.
Find better multi day dual sport rides that make it worth it

- or -

Pay Luis-Fernando Musquiz to deal with your air filter. He a Triumph specialist y muy chido. Or so he says.
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:28 PM   #17203
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What kind of weather should I expect during that time of the year there? I believe the rainy season would be over but I'm sure a lot of water would still be around.
Nice time of year with 2 caveats

Ice/snow in the central elevations of Mexico are possibilities in certain spots in those two months, so keep an eye on this and route around if necessary.

Other than that, Christmas and Easter are huge holidays in Mexico and south so be aware of vastly increased border traffic both ways during those times.
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:31 PM   #17204
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4 weeks is just not enough time to go and come back on a relaxed ride.
Don't take this wrong, but you are imagining this because you've not been down and back

Understandable though

Once you go down there and come back, you'll have a MUCH better feel for pacing

^ For the same reasons as romance, for many of the same reasons and on similar levels

Prep your bike well and go, the pacing and timing will take care of itself, once you're underway

^ For the same reasons as romance, for many of the same reasons and on similar levels

Remember the rules around here: have a great time, take pics, and report back (the moto trip part )
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:49 PM   #17205
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Don't take this wrong, but you are imagining this because you've not been down and back

Understandable though

Once you go down there and come back, you'll have a MUCH better feel for pacing

^ For the same reasons as romance, for many of the same reasons and on similar levels

Prep your bike well and go, the pacing and timing will take care of itself, once you're underway

^ For the same reasons as romance, for many of the same reasons and on similar levels

Remember the rules around here: have a great time, take pics, and report back (the moto trip part )
I hear ya loud and clear Trice! Thank you for the feedback.
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