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Old 10-02-2013, 08:05 AM   #17731
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OK , I know I am missing some info somewhere , but searching I can't locate an answer .
I saw that MotoMikey has a 180 day TVIP . For the life of me I can't find if you have to hand this back in when crossing into Guatemala or just keep your sticker on and ride back through Mex on the return journey , saving getting another TVIP . (so long as it is within the 180 days) .
I know I have read some details on this somewhere . But have got myself confused . (not difficult)
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:48 AM   #17732
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You don't have to cancel a TVIP when exiting Mexico to the north, or to the south.

If you're going to need it again, and it has "time on it", then "keep it open"

What you do have to do to enter Guatemala is to cancel your Mexico FMM ("tourist card", "tourist visa", whatever your favorite saying is).

You will cancel on the Mexico side, and get a stamp in your passport. This is the stamp you will need to enter Guatemala.

Note that to get "stamped out of Mexico" your FMM has to have the payment receipt with it. If you've lost or misplaced this receipt, you'll pay for a new FMM on the spot and then immediately cancel it.

I've seen this first hand with my own eyes. No names to protect the innocent.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:02 AM   #17733
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"....or just keep your sticker on"
Personal preference, but most riders don't separate the hologram "sticker" from the form and affix to a windscreen.

Just keep them together as received and throw the combe in your bag and ride off.

There might be some rule about this chiseled on the wall at the Temple of the Inscriptions at Palenque, but I've never seen it.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:21 AM   #17734
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Ah Thankyou !!
The extra info about the sticker is welcome also as I have read not to stick it on , but never sure why .
Thanks Again
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:28 AM   #17735
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45 years ago today, Tlatelolco.
Easy to walk through the area and never know it happened.
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:50 PM   #17736
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There are several reasons for not placing the sticker on a motorcycle.
And it is officially approved to not stick on bikes.
The sticker was designed to be placed on INSIDE of automobile windshields
behind the mirror where it intrudes minimally on vision.
Car windshields are glass and removal is fairly unlikely to damage glass.
Inside a car it cannot easily be stolen .

On a bike the sticker will be on plastic shield of a fairing
Not all bikes have these making it impossible to read numbers
if stuck to an opaque surface like a tank.
Even in minor tumbles a windshield with sticker could be destroyed.
On a bike it may look offensive to the genteel set to have a sticker on a
pristine windshield taking up a considerable area of view.
There used to be a problem with kids in some areas
collecting stickers and actually trying to remove the TVIP sticker
for trophy value . Also some cretins stole them to apply to other vehicles in
hopes of eluding taxes on certain vehicles , but that ruse only worked if
no inspection point asked for documents.
Removing a sticker from a bike using sharp scraper instruments
will leave scratches and gouges., not appreciated by anybody.
Once removed there is still a sticky mess of adhesive left and
using solvents to remove that can seriously damage the windshield.

Ergo it was concluded to be more sensible to give motorcyclists the
option of simply carrying the TVIP in their documents file to be presented
for inspection upon request.
If you do not mind putting it on the windshield you may , but remember
it is not a souvenir which you may keep , it will have to be
removed when you cancel the TVIP

Coming up for air...... now you know
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Old 10-02-2013, 02:48 PM   #17737
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There is a tattoo artist in Matamoros who will ink your TVIP on your bod for $475 (pesos)

Inked TVIPs never expire, so it might be worth it
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Old 10-02-2013, 03:32 PM   #17738
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There is a tattoo artist in Matamoros who will ink your TVIP on your bod for $475 (pesos)

Inked TVIPs never expire, so it might be worth it
The Virgin of Guadalupe tat will get you further.
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Old 10-02-2013, 03:46 PM   #17739
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I have a Salma Hayek tat that has gotten me out of every road side stop I've ever had
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Old 10-02-2013, 03:46 PM   #17740
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Old 10-02-2013, 03:58 PM   #17741
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Thank You Sjoerd . Makes a whole heap of sense .
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Old 10-02-2013, 04:04 PM   #17742
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I have a Salma Hayek tat that has gotten me out of every roadside rest stop I've ever had
Fixed it a little.
Stop that, you'll be losing your 20/20 vision before Baja, mijo!
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Old 10-02-2013, 04:10 PM   #17743
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losing your 20/20 vision before Baja
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:26 PM   #17744
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Planning my ride from Yecora to Creel for tomorrow. Had planned on staying on 16 until La Junta, but google maps is showing me a route turning south east at the edge of the Basaseachi park. I know, I know google maps can really screw you over. Is this a legitimate route? Am ok with with dirt track, shit road,more concerned with the fact my map sucks and dont want to be guessing at more than a few forks in the road
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:46 PM   #17745
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Planning my ride from Yecora to Creel for tomorrow. Had planned on staying on 16 until La Junta, but google maps is showing me a route turning south east at the edge of the Basaseachi park. I know, I know google maps can really screw you over. Is this a legitimate route? Am ok with with dirt track, shit road,more concerned with the fact my map sucks and dont want to be guessing at more than a few forks in the road
Paved, nice all the way to San Juanito and Creel. This road takes you right past the overlook for the Falls.
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