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Old 10-20-2013, 08:40 PM   #17911
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oh DAMN, I spat out my dinner as I bursted into laughter.....thanks.....
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:03 AM   #17912
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In lieu of the excellent resource Craneguy has posted regarding learning the Spanish language, it has prompted me to open the vault and share my new favorite Mexican weather resource. It even beats WeatherSpark which wasn't too bad, in fact WeatherSpark can be used in combo with this new source for a decent weather outlook for anywhere in Mexico. Literally anywhere. Not just for towns with more than 10,000 people.

But wait!

There's more!

The new weather resource comes with a sister page that gives...agarrate bien mijos...mountain forecasts. Forecasts are by a mountain range with sub-sections for specific mountains.

I've been checking the accuracy over the past 4 days and they have been very close to spot on. Since the CFE haven't updated their weather section for the past two weeks, I'm done with that resource.

Normal weather reports:

http://www.weather-forecast.com/countries/Mexico

and

Mountain forecasts:

http://www.mountain-forecast.com/mou...nges/subranges

SR, I think you might find these links useful for when you do those off-road rides with los gueros.

Now, what we need is a solid "cantina forecast" link.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:09 AM   #17913
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Routes to Oaxaca

Hey MikeMike I see you offered a route suggestion somewhere in this thread for traveling to Oaxaca. Don't know from what direction but I'm looking to head there from Houston. Remember when you posted it? I'm thinking that it's generally better to head inland than go via the coast.

And thanks to everyone for the navigation advice.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:26 AM   #17914
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Sandwich, your fellow Brooklynite was just in Puerto Escondido. You guys escaping or what?

Ok, come down via the inland route, and then head towards Puebla, as high up in the state as you can enter from your inland route and then drop down via Teziutlan or just head towards Guadalupe Victoria. From there, you have some options if you are heading to Oaxaca. Do you want a mix of on and off road? All paved? Fast or scenic? etc... PM me your rough itinerary, or just post it here, and I will give you some good routes. Basically, you get into the state of Puebla as far north as possible and you'll exit via Tehuacan for Oaxaca unless you have more time and you can take the Tuxtepec to Oaxaca route. You'll like the roads, get new tires before you leave Brooklyn.
You'll be riding amongst 4 distinct mountain ranges and a good 1,500 years or so of recorded history.
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:45 PM   #17915
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Escape from Brookyn

MikeMike,

Thanks for this. Brooklyn is very mellow these days. Downright old-fashioned but with a hipster twist. But it's still the city and the horizon is always cut off at the next building. Seriously looking forward to the Mexico trip - planned for January - which looks good though probably a bit chilly in the mountains.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:12 PM   #17916
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Just trying to figure out if I need maps or can navigate with Google. I like to stay off the slabs and take secondary roads so I'm wondering if there is reasonably consistent cell service to keep the google connection going.

Just got back to Brooklyn from Puerto Escondido a little over a week ago, unscathed and with fond memories.

I used Google maps most of the time. I like it for it's general accuracy for route planning. This is of course what you want to do the night before the next leg in a hotel with wifi. I would try to map it out as much as possible then write myself notes for direction on the bike. This worked pretty well most of the time.

The problem is when you are in the middle of nowhere and want to check the map and see where you are or double check you are on the right road. I spent many, many minutes on the side of the road, sweating, panting in my helmet, staring at the promising blue dot on a field of blank grid. Frustrating.

You won't have that trouble in most cities, but in rural areas I would not count on Google maps alone, at least know the road you are supposed to be on, the route you wanted to take, and how to ask direction.

I always have paper maps with me, but you need a very specific and detailed map for a specific area for any helpful highway #'s and street names.

One thing to keep in mind: I found out quickly it is really helpful to know not just your destination city/town, but the names of all the major cities and towns along your route. Often at a crossroad the signs will just be for the next larger town down either road, not the major town/city you are headed to. So keep a list of the order of towns on your route.

Enjoy and have a great time! I'm in Brooklyn so feel free to PM me if I can help at all. This site was a huge help to me in planning. Good luck!

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Old 10-22-2013, 12:27 AM   #17917
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One thing to keep in mind: I found out quickly it is really helpful to know not just your destination city/town, but the names of all the major cities and towns along your route. Often at a crossroad the signs will just be for the next larger town down either road, not the major town/city you are headed to. So keep a list of the order of towns on your route.
BINGO!

This kind of thing occurs all over Mexico. You get a sign clearly marking your exit/turn for your next town then the next exit/turn calls out some town downrange you've never even seen on the map. You're a savvy traveler to figure this out.

Now, if I can just wrap up this project at work it'll be time to head south again. Maybe chase after some Italian Hottie.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:49 AM   #17918
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These kinds of directions shouldn't be a surprise. It's done the same way here in the US.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:07 AM   #17919
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Any input on our proposed route

My husband and I are laying out our route to Guatemala leaving around the 2nd January 2014. We would appreciate any info on reasonable lodging that has local color or is unique.

I would prefer it if we had other riders with us for periods of time. I ride an F650GS single and my husband rides F650GS Twin. The proposed route is crossing at Nuevo Laredo and spending the first night in Saltillo, then on to Real de Catorce and then a couple of days in the northern central highlands with a visit to the Reserva de la Biosfera. Then down to Teotihuacan and on to Oaxaca and from there to the Pacific coast.

This will be our second trip to the Guatemala. Look forward to hearing from you

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Old 10-22-2013, 09:23 AM   #17920
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I also ride an F650GS twin. I recommend you contact Guaterider if you have not done so yet.
Let me know if you are going to be dropping into Oaxaca via Tehuacan or via Puebla, I can give you some very interesting routing suggestions.
Saludos from Veracruz.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:41 AM   #17921
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MikeMike,

Thanks for this. Brooklyn is very mellow these days. Downright old-fashioned but with a hipster twist. But it's still the city and the horizon is always cut off at the next building. Seriously looking forward to the Mexico trip - planned for January - which looks good though probably a bit chilly in the mountains.
We usually get a big drop (ok, relatively speaking) in temps during the first couple of weeks in January, maybe even a little rain, though we've had enough of that to last a long time, lately! Above 10,000ft you will sometimes get freezing at night, merely chilly during the day. But above 11,500 you can get some snow and near zero some days in January. However, this is limited to the volcanic regions, specifically the Teziutlan massif that runs perpendicular to the Trans-Mexican volcanic axis, usually the Cofre de Perote, la Sierra Negra or Cerro Negro and El Pico de Orizaba.
The Sierra Madre Oriental can be a little chilly and damp.

For your routing, try to enter Puebla as high northwest that you find convenient, and then meander down through the north of the state and aim for Teziutlan. Next, take a full day and enjoy the ride from Teziutlan to Tlapacoyan, Veracuz which is a steep downhill fast curve filled ride, big fun, know your limits on this one, and then go back up to Altotonga from Tlapacoyan, another good run. From Altotonga, head to Perote, you can then head to La Gloria (the supposed epicenter and locale of patient zero in the H1N1 flu virus scare from a couple of years back). From La Gloria, you can head to Gonzalez Ortega, then to Las Maravillas (good name for a town on this nice mountain road) and drop down onto the altiplano de Serdan and Guadalupe Victoria. This road follows the state boundary line between Veracruz and Puebla. From Guadalupe Victoria you then head towards Ciudad Serdan but on the secondary route following the road and passing 5 old haciendas. From Ciudad Serdan, you can head over to Cuesta Blanca.
From this point, please PM me for directions via a special route to Tehuacan. I'll tell you why, later.
From Tehuacan, you can drop down into Oaxaca. This is a good day's ride, easy to follow and you'll pass through a massive amount of history on some very interesting roads, all paved and very light traffic. Some people like to overnight in Tehuacan and enjoy some of the food.

Take a decent little camera with you, throw away your watch and any concept of time of day, and put your new tires to use. The route might look a little odd, zig-zagging, but that is exactly what makes it so interesting. If you want spend two days on this route, you can overnight in Perote and then head to both Los Humeros and La Cantona and begin to get an understanding of what's available here. You'll find both places worthy to visit.

Actually, throwing away your watch is probably the single best thing you can do.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:46 AM   #17922
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Mike Mike: Guzzi needs a new battery and I need a chunk of time but I'm working on it.
Invest the time, you are doing mankind a tremendous favor by keeping another Guzzi on the road! I've always had a soft spot for those bikes!
Imagine doing your next Mex trip on that bike.
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:39 PM   #17923
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I also ride an F650GS twin. I recommend you contact Guaterider if you have not done so yet.
Let me know if you are going to be dropping into Oaxaca via Tehuacan or via Puebla, I can give you some very interesting routing suggestions.
Saludos from Veracruz.
Hi. I think we will probably come through and stop at Puebla on the way down because that would give us more time at the Teotihuacan. We are not going to be in hurry so we would be open to suggestions that you would have on the routes.

Thanks. We were in Veracruz two winters ago and it was a very pretty city.
We had a nice escort by motorcycle police to a Yamaha dealer so our friend, who was travelling with us on a KLR, could get a new chain. They even refused our offer for beer money for their services.

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Old 10-22-2013, 05:10 PM   #17924
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Headlights...

Can someone please explain to me what an oncoming car flashing their headlights at me means? I can't seem to figure it out. I've seen it multiple times a day for the past 3 weeks I've been in Mexico. At first I thought they were warning me of cops/military (like drivers in the USA) but haven't seen any on the road.. so then I thought they were warning me of bad road conditions/obstacles/etc but most times I never see anything out of the ordinary. The only thing left I can think of is that they are letting me know my moto headlight is on (which it always is)..
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:10 PM   #17925
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My husband and I are laying out our route to Guatemala leaving around the 2nd January 2014. We would appreciate any info on reasonable lodging that has local color or is unique.

I would prefer it if we had other riders with us for periods of time. I ride an F650GS single and my husband rides F650GS Twin. The proposed route is crossing at Nuevo Laredo and spending the first night in Saltillo, then on to Real de Catorce and then a couple of days in the northern central highlands with a visit to the Reserva de la Biosfera. Then down to Teotihuacan and on to Oaxaca and from there to the Pacific coast.

This will be our second trip to the Guatemala. Look forward to hearing from you

Barb
My GF and I are leaving NC the first or second week of January. Plan is to wander around MX and maybe Guat for 2-3 months, or until it warms up in NC. We are still putting together a "plan". If it goes like last year the "plan" will go out the window the first day in MX. It's not so much a plan as a general outline of places we want to see or spend time at. All we know for sure is we will spend at least a couple of weeks lying on the beach in Zipolite. Maybe we can hook up somewhere on the road. I'll buy the first round.
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