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Old 11-23-2013, 12:12 PM   #18421
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Don't know why anybody would hotel in Toluca...

So they can breathe in January, February, and March?
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Old 11-23-2013, 12:16 PM   #18422
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We have established that everyone's idea of a motorcycle trip is different. If a person is strictly into riding, don't go anywhere near Mexico DF. Stay in the rural mountain roads.

If you want to see Mexican culture, then riding past DF is like going to the US from another country and driving right past Washington DC and New York city. OMO ,if you want to see DF, pull your shirt up, get a reservation at a decent hotel right downtown like the Holiday Inn that Jimmex mentioned ride in. Park the bike and go see the Zocalo, Cathedral, Palacio de Bellas Artes, castle at Chapultapec, Zona Rosa, maybe the Basilica de Guadalupe Victoria or the big Mercado. Once you get down town and settled in, it is interesting to walk around and see the spectacle.

I've been to DF a few times and got it out of my system. Now I would just as soon ride past it, but I am glad I've been there.
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Eakins , if you really REALLY want to visit in Mexico city I would recommend HotelMontecarlo at Av Republica de Urugauy , only two blocks southwest from the Zocalo . Nice older hotel with great secure parking garage and very good economic rates and super easy to locate .Ya'd be amazed at how little you need to spend for a comfortable stay in the very heart of the historic center within walking distance of all kinds of stuff. Leave the bike parked there and spend days riding around on the subway if that is what you like to do.
Don't know why anybody would hotel in Toluca in order to take the commuter trains or bus to the DF .
But if that is your gameplan there are also huge inexpensive hotels in Toluca which would gladly rent you a great room and then also permit you to leave the bike in their gated secure garage area for your daily visits to the DF . Check out Hotel Miled, they have about 5 great BIG properties scattered around Toluca.Stayed at their hotel on Av M Hidalgo (at start of Passeo Tollocan and on south side of railroad to DF) in the east end of city 7 months ago ( how time flies) and found it to be a bargain.Should be easy enough to get to the RR station or bus depot
These two posts nail it for me. And you can spend 2-3 days just walking El Centro without paying anyone to haul you around. But there's plenty of cheap transportation available. The City runs on it.

And there is some incredible riding available in/around Mexico City even if dancing with cages ain't your thing. The most surreal riding experience available in all of Mexico, IMO, is Mexico City during Semana Santa. You'll see far more open pavement than traffic as The City pretty well clears out for the holiday. After spending the day hooliganning around town exploring the sites and sampling the taquerias tuck into bed with a glass of Reposado and enjoy the Omega Man DVD you packed down. Good times.

Any other time of year you can get in/out of The City without too much trouble by simply timing it right. It just requires a certain grade of chill.

I'll check out Sjoerd's hotel recommendation next time. Sounds good.

Dang, I think I've talked myself into making a return trip this Spring.
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Old 11-23-2013, 01:27 PM   #18423
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I looked at Trip Advisor after seeing Sjoerds comments. Most of the TA comments were dated and they weren't stellar. Maybe the place is better now.
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Old 11-23-2013, 01:39 PM   #18424
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Old 11-23-2013, 01:42 PM   #18425
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Old 11-23-2013, 02:21 PM   #18426
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Sleddog, CWC, Tury in a crew of 10 from Minnesota are out on the road right now. They came down from CC, Creel, Paral to DGO this week and headed across the sierra from DGO to Nayarit yesterday. Are you guys and girls out there? Lets see some photos?
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Old 11-23-2013, 02:59 PM   #18428
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Eakins , if you really REALLY want to visit in Mexico city I would recommend HotelMontecarlo at Av Republica de Urugauy , only two blocks southwest from the Zocalo . Nice older hotel with great secure parking garage and very good economic rates and super easy to locate .Ya'd be amazed at how little you need to spend for a comfortable stay in the very heart of the historic center within walking distance of all kinds of stuff. Leave the bike parked there and spend days riding around on the subway if that is what you like to do.
Don't know why anybody would hotel in Toluca in order to take the commuter trains or bus to the DF .
But if that is your gameplan there are also huge inexpensive hotels in Toluca which would gladly rent you a great room and then also permit you to leave the bike in their gated secure garage area for your daily visits to the DF . Check out Hotel Miled, they have about 5 great BIG properties scattered around Toluca.Stayed at their hotel on Av M Hidalgo (at start of Passeo Tollocan and on south side of railroad to DF) in the east end of city 7 months ago ( how time flies) and found it to be a bargain.Should be easy enough to get to the RR station or bus depot
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:00 PM   #18429
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I looked at Trip Advisor after seeing Sjoerds comments. Most of the TA comments were dated and they weren't stellar. Maybe the place is better now.
I've used Sjoerd's guide while traveling Mexico. It's a "mixed bag" to say the least. But that's what I like about it. I consider his guide more suitable for the "durable budget traveler" than the moneyed tourist. It's great for getting a real taste of Mexico, down in the nitty-gritty of the culture, right in there with the mainstream of Mexican society. There's much to gain from his mode of travel if you want to fully experience a culture.
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What hotel(s) in which town(s) did you avail yourself of Sjoerd's guide?
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What hotel(s) in which town(s) did you avail yourself of Sjoerd's guide?
It was Cd. Victoria but I don't have the hotel names handy.
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You can find it in Sjoerd's book
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:37 PM   #18433
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You can find it in Sjoerd's book
Ya think??

I must be busy with something else right now.
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I like small hotels, motels,"mom & pop" type places, however, I am not fond of mice, bed bugs, fleas, etc. And that seemed to be the type of complaints that I read regarding the place in Mexico City. (Hotel Monte Carlo)
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:06 PM   #18435
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I like small hotels, motels,"mom & pop" type places, however, I am not fond of mice, bed bugs, fleas, etc. And that seemed to be the type of complaints that I read regarding the place in Mexico City. (Hotel Monte Carlo)
Dennis:

Best "hotel" I've ever stayed in in Mexico was the cabin SR scored for us on the DGO - MAZ off-route ride.

We each had our own room (made of plywood), but on each bed were mice droppings.

I really didn't care, since I had a sleeping bag, and the cabin was 2,000% better than anything I wished for. Fireplace. Kitchen. Hot water. Soft bed. In the woods at Mexiquillo - you can't beat that.

To this day, that spot gives me a smile. SR scored a slam dunk.

You can beat "mice, bed bugs, fleas, etc." by bringing your own sleeping bag.

All day getting beat up on the bike, adrenaline to jump start a horse due to the scenery, SR's amazing leadership on the trail - that cabin at the end of that day bested the Hotel Emporio in Veracruz.

Mice, bed bugs, and fleas you can find in New York City. You can almost eliminate that concern by bringing your own "bed environment" - the sleeping bag.

And, it's a consistent "feel" every night. Plus an emergency shelter on the road.

In every place Jimmex and I stayed on the recent Sonora/Marfa loop, I used a sleeping bag.

I highly recommend it.
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