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Old 12-18-2013, 07:11 AM   #19096
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Your toll ticket is your insurance policy while on that road for damages against your vehicle.
Literally?

+1 on toll road usefulness. I will use some to get to Huatulco in your neighborhood MikeMike.

57 south from Matehuala was a drudge but all views are great to the noob. (first hand knowledge).
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Old 12-18-2013, 07:34 AM   #19097
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Toll Road Safety

Keeping with the spirit of the Safety aspect, I would add this:

When you are cruising at a free spirited pace on the Toll road be aware that others will be going MUCH faster. 100+ mph is not uncommon. On a boring straight Cuota it was easy for me to not pay attention to my rear view mirror.

Most of the toll roads I rode on had wide shoulders. People use these shoulders as auxiliary traffic lanes. They will move over to allow you to pass without having to cross the center line. (some just stay there). I too move over for the faster traffic. (they can come up on you VERY quickly). I stay over to right most of the time so moving further is quick and easy.

All that being said, beware of the speed of oncoming traffic as well.

Some one should elaborate on the dangerous oil slicks at the Toll Plazas. The site of my only nap last year.
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Old 12-18-2013, 07:48 AM   #19098
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+1 on jimmex's and Mark's recommendations.

From Houston it's a direct route through Reynosa then head directly west to the PanAm (Hwy85). I recommend running the loop west of the PanAm through Cola de Caballo to Los Lirios and back. One of Mexico's beautiful slot canyons awaits you there.

Do you like a smooth, almost sweet Tequila? Check out La Picota tequileria just north of Cd. Victoria on the PanAm. There's a tasting room - don't miss the Reposado. Don't like the stuff? You'll want to stop just to tour Sergio's cactus garden. Impressive.

Look up Edward James and Las Pozas. Maybe you're already familiar with him. No artist should miss seeing this place. And the ride to Xilitla is nice.

If you route across the Sierra Gorda to Queretaro don't miss the monolith at Villa Bernal. Neat little Pueblo Magico where my cousin lives. Only 45-60 minutes from downtown Queretaro. If she's home I'll ask if she will put you up. Cool lady, neat old house.

If you go to Real de Catorce consider the Linares-Galeana-Aramberri-Dr. Arroyo-Matehuala route.

Consider buying Sjoerd Bakker's Mexico guide. Will help stretch your funds and bring you closer to the people of Mexico. Also packed with travel guide info. Like avoiding the toll roads for the libre roads to save money and see more of the country.

Here's a good trip planning link that shows Pemex gas stations:
http://guiapemex.pemex.com/Paginas/mapas.aspx

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YES!! God, thank you. Awesome information. This is quite honestly making me relax a bit about the safety issue.. though perhaps "relax" is the wrong word.. easing my paranoia is probably more accurate. Upon close inspection there are some amazing looking twisties that run through the mountain range below Monterrey that under circumstances I'm used to (such as being located in the U.S.) I wouldn't hesitate to target... any word on Rt 20 from Santiago at 85 to Saltillo? Is this really unsafe?
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:16 AM   #19099
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Guys..

Checking in to say hello from MEXICO! I promise a road report will come. So far, my travels have taken me from Reynosa (where I met Arte for breakfast...what a great guy and THANK YOU again Arte).

Reynosa to Linares
Linares to Leon (Should have bypassed but oh well)
Leon to Maravatio
Maravatio to Toluca....where I sit now.
Toluca.......Oaxaca?

I learned quick to stay away from if possible from the toll ways. Soooo much better experience through the little towns. The ride from Maravatio to Toluca was pretty neat. However, those TOPES can creat havoc if youre not paying attention. I would not want to be on a lowered bike!

OK..until the next time.

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Old 12-18-2013, 09:27 AM   #19100
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Literally?
Yes, you will have to go through the process and it is slow, but like the CFE electrical issues, they will pay. Hang on to the toll receipt.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:33 AM   #19101
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YES!! God, thank you. Awesome information. This is quite honestly making me relax a bit about the safety issue.. though perhaps "relax" is the wrong word.. easing my paranoia is probably more accurate. Upon close inspection there are some amazing looking twisties that run through the mountain range below Monterrey that under circumstances I'm used to (such as being located in the U.S.) I wouldn't hesitate to target... any word on Rt 20 from Santiago at 85 to Saltillo? Is this really unsafe?

That's the loop I was refering to. You'll ride through a beautiful slot canyon. You can loop back to Santiago then proceed south on the PanAm for either Xilitla or Real de Catorce or simply continue west to Saltillo. Don't miss Cola de Caballo falls just uphill from Santiago. This is a popular family recreation area serving Monterrey. You'll see families riding quads and picknicking along the roadside, etc.

Will you be using a GPS? I can give you coords for any particular site for either GPS or Google Maps, etc.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:37 AM   #19102
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Plzn, do the #175 from Oaxaca up to Veracruz and stop by.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:43 AM   #19103
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Keeping with the spirit of the Safety aspect, I would add this:

When you are cruising at a free spirited pace on the Toll road be aware that others will be going MUCH faster. 100+ mph is not uncommon. On a boring straight Cuota it was easy for me to not pay attention to my rear view mirror.
Those guys need to stay outta the fast lane, dang it!

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Some one should elaborate on the dangerous oil slicks at the Toll Plazas. The site of my only nap last year.
You just covered that.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:52 AM   #19104
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Oil slicks at the toll plazas, yep, very common and a PITA.

Now, one of these days maybe someone from Pemex can explain to me why gas jockeys feel obligated to water down the painted areas in front of the pumps every 5 minutes. Watch for this, very slick, the normal oil and crap accumulates there and then it gets water on top of it and paint under it.
Kind of like the clay with water on top of it in the mountains, without the great view that suddenly goes from horizontal to vertical.
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:02 AM   #19105
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Plzn, do the #175 from Oaxaca up to Veracruz and stop by.
Did that route last time in rain and fog. Plan to ride it again with hopefully nicer conditions. Epic route either way.
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:11 AM   #19106
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When I see that oil slick at the caseta, I mention it to the people working there. It is not safe and we are paying for safety. Anyway, there are usually at least a few people standing around the Caseta doing nothing. Pongase las pilas cabrones and clean it up.
On my list of words never to use in Mexico.
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:31 AM   #19107
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You could do a lot worse than "cabrones", especially as a gringo
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:41 AM   #19108
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I think they spray grease ON the Pemex concrete. ;)
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:42 AM   #19109
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On my list of words never to use in Mexico.
Don't say pilas in a tiangue, either.
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:54 AM   #19110
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Toluca....where I sit now.

Toluca.......Oaxaca?
Glad you're having a great time. Epiphany stories like yours are fun.

Oaxaca without a doubt. Don't be in a hurry to leave. There's lots to do in the environs around that town too.

Then cherry on the cake it by making the twistie run to one (or more) of the southern Oaxacan beaches.
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