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Old 02-18-2012, 12:13 PM   #6646
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Bob C. just texted me a photo of his bent rim and damaged tire from our Mexico trip.

He was blasting through the Yucatán and didn't have time to react to a pothole.

This is on a GS Adventure, with stout wire rims.

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Old 02-18-2012, 04:07 PM   #6647
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why blast through the Yucatan ? It isn't going anywhere.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:20 PM   #6648
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Listen to me:

Take a taxi from your hotel EARLY on Saturday morning to Mercado de los Abastos.

Take your camera.

You'll be done by 11 AM.

Trust me.

Have lunch there.

But GET LOST in that market. Smell the smells. Absorb the vibes.

It's just a few blocks from the zocalo but 99 percent of tourists fail to go there.

Go!
Great suggestion and done!! was there at 830 this am! See RR for pics. Thx
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:22 PM   #6649
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Thanks for the info !
There is a catch! Isn't there always a catch. Parking is about 3 blocks away. No biggie but worth knowing and that garage is closed on Sunday so it is about 7 blocks away unless you are a suave talking gringo.



He only seemed partly OK with this idea
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:26 PM   #6650
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Yes indeed, Mexico is truly dangerous....I have been held hostage here in Zipolite for 4 days now and don't know when I will get out. I keep trying to summon the courage and motivation to get up and and make a break for it but it just ain't happening. Between the friendly people great food, cold beer, sunsets, sunrises, and all the relaxing on the beach enjoying the scenery, I just can't seem to escape. I am thinking and plotting an escape sometime toward the middle ot next week but if something happens and I can't get out, don't send anyone after me. It is just too dangerous. Maybe I can make another attempt when the spring rains come......
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:35 PM   #6651
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Bob C. just texted me a photo of his bent rim and damaged tire from our Mexico trip.

He was blasting through the Yucatán and didn't have time to react to a pothole.

This is on a GS Adventure, with stout wire rims.

Ouch! Woody can fix that although he is not cheap. I've been struggling with my GS's wheels (true, flat spot and infamous divots/gouges) and the fix is not 'gonna be cheap.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:40 PM   #6652
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Yes indeed, Mexico is truly dangerous....I have been held hostage here in Zipolite for 4 days now and don't know when I will get out.
There are over 1400 narco-related deaths per month in Mexico and many are just innocents caught in the wrong place wrong time. Families are having their loved ones returned to them decapitated. I am sorry but your humor sure seems in poor taste and without any respect for the people in the culture you are a guest of.

You sound like Marie Antoinette and her statement, "Let them eat cake". Your money and nationality afford you a level of privilege and safety not available to most Mexicans.

Not saying to not enjoy yourself but jst to consider those who don't share our good fortune.

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Old 02-19-2012, 05:18 AM   #6653
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Ouch! Woody can fix that although he is not cheap. I've been struggling with my GS's wheels (true, flat spot and infamous divots/gouges) and the fix is not 'gonna be cheap.
I've had several impacts with potholes where I expected the result to be the same - but somehow escaped any damage at all.

Bob C. must have hit it like a ton of bricks.
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Old 02-19-2012, 05:20 AM   #6654
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Yes indeed, Mexico is truly dangerous....I have been held hostage here in Zipolite for 4 days now and don't know when I will get out. I keep trying to summon the courage and motivation to get up and and make a break for it but it just ain't happening. Between the friendly people great food, cold beer, sunsets, sunrises, and all the relaxing on the beach enjoying the scenery, I just can't seem to escape. I am thinking and plotting an escape sometime toward the middle ot next week but if something happens and I can't get out, don't send anyone after me. It is just too dangerous. Maybe I can make another attempt when the spring rains come......
From Zicatella through where you are on on east, that is a beautiful part of Mexico's shoreline.

I can see making an annual pilgrimage down that way.
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Old 02-19-2012, 05:32 AM   #6655
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Between the friendly people great food, cold beer, sunsets, sunrises, and all the relaxing on the beach enjoying the scenery, I just can't seem to escape.


Capture from your SPOT page:

I'm working on the satellite photo of just who you have with you in that hammock

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Old 02-19-2012, 08:20 AM   #6656
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There are over 1400 narco-related deaths per month in Mexico and many are just innocents caught in the wrong place wrong time. Families are having their loved ones returned to them decapitated. I am sorry but your humor sure seems in poor taste and without any respect for the people in the culture you are a guest of.

You sound like Marie Antoinette and her statement, "Let them eat cake". Your money and nationality afford you a level of privilege and safety not available to most Mexicans.

Not saying to not enjoy yourself but jst to consider those who don't share our good fortune.
Dude, that is way out of line. kenny has not intimated any such thing.
As far as I can tell none of the posters on this thread are so immature
that they discount the horrendous nature of the violence in Mexico
and the effects on those affected.

But what is clear to those of us who travel in Mexico is the enormous
damage being done to many more peoples lives by the huge reduction
in tourist dollars caused in part by the one sided media coverage and
the paranoia that creates.

So I see kenneys post as trying in a humorous manner to juxtapose
this unjustified paranoia with the reality he's experiencing.

Generally with posts like yours I ascribe to the "don't feed the trolls"
attitude, but get a clue !

We are off today to visit a small clinic on the lake in Patzcuaro, which
tends to the health needs of the peoples who live on the seven islands.
We're considering adding a small addition and some needed equipment.

Riding in Mexico and looking forward to shredding around with MikeMike
next weekend.

Twist it, Max
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:25 AM   #6657
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Dude, that is way out of line. kenny has not intimated any such thing.
As far as I can tell none of the posters on this thread are so immature
that they discount the horrendous nature of the violence in Mexico
and the effects on those affected.

But what is clear to those of us who travel in Mexico is the enormous
damage being done to many more peoples lives by the huge reduction
in tourist dollars caused in part by the one sided media coverage and
the paranoia that creates.

So I see kenneys post as trying in a humorous manner to juxtapose
this unjustified paranoia with the reality he's experiencing.

Generally with posts like yours I ascribe to the "don't feed the trolls"
attitude, but get a clue !

We are off today to visit a small clinic on the lake in Patzcuaro, which
tends to the health needs of the peoples who live on the seven islands.
We're considering adding a small addition and some needed equipment.

Riding in Mexico and looking forward to shredding around with MikeMike
next weekend.

Twist it, Max
I must have misunderstood, I thought he was poking fun at the idea of Mexico being dangerous with his opening sentence and I thought of all the families of all the victims of the current violent climate that might disagree.

My bad.

One question. Do you understand that your passport and the money in your pocket provides you a privilege of safety not available to the many Mexicans that are trapped in the violence due to poverty?

Troll? Really? Just for having a different opinion than you? OK.

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Old 02-19-2012, 08:29 AM   #6658
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But what is clear to those of us who travel in Mexico is the enormous
damage being done to many more peoples lives by the huge reduction
in tourist dollars caused in part by the one sided media coverage and
the paranoia that creates.

So I see kenneys post as trying in a humorous manner to juxtapose
this unjustified paranoia with the reality he's experiencing.

Generally with posts like yours I ascribe to the "don't feed the trolls"
attitude, but get a clue!


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Old 02-19-2012, 11:09 AM   #6659
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Great suggestion and done!! was there at 830 this am! See RR for pics. Thx
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:48 PM   #6660
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But what is clear to those of us who travel in Mexico is the enormous
damage being done to many more peoples lives by the huge reduction
in tourist dollars caused in part by the one sided media coverage and
the paranoia that creates.
The media are responsible?
Come again.
So you suggest limiting the press? Preventing transparency?
The reason tourism is down is that elements of Mexican society are killing people in very gruesome styles and in tremendous quantities and an increase in general lawlessness since I first moved to Mexico in '84.

As this violence continues to increase so does the chance of a tourist being caught in the crossfire, robbed on a bus, or becoming a victim of the increasing kidnappings.

Can you really argue this? Really?
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