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Old 12-11-2012, 04:00 PM   #11401
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Another video of the explosion

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Old 12-12-2012, 05:17 AM   #11402
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...Mexico on a 93 GS/PD .
If you want to store it here in Mexico and make sure it is ridden regularly and well maintained, I would be more than happy to help you out.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:56 AM   #11403
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If you want to store it here in Mexico and make sure it is ridden regularly and well maintained, I would be more than happy to help you out.
Get in there my son! Who knows, maybe he'll leave waterproofs in the luggage too!
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:13 AM   #11404
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My favorite Mexican road sign . En inglese "Winding Road" . Down there, It means it .
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:25 AM   #11405
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Get in there my son! Who knows, maybe he'll leave waterproofs in the luggage too!
Comedian, eh?
Talked to the Mystery Rider yesterday, Saturday early AM romp to Puente Calavera via Teziutlan. You in or are you modeling the ADV winter line at Palacio de Hierro Santa Fe?
Breakfast of cecina, jalapenos, onions, purple tortillas, and salsa que pica pica.
And you think I want to be trapped in a waterproof rubber suit with the aftermath of that????
I think he might be on the SS Wyoming Express this time, though the engine room is due for an upgrade of hardware to version 120 or something. If he shows up in leather, I' ll lead and you two can trade fashion tips via the intercoms.

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Old 12-12-2012, 07:50 AM   #11406
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Comedian, eh?
Talked to the Mystery Rider yesterday, Saturday early AM romp to Puente Calavera via Teziutlan. You in or are you modeling the ADV winter line at Palacio de Hierro Santa Fe?
Breakfast of cecina, jalapenos, onions, purple tortillas, and salsa que pica pica.
And you think I want to be trapped in a waterproof rubber suit with the aftermath of that????
I think he might be on the SS Wyoming Express this time, though the engine room is due for an upgrade of hardware to version 120 or something. If he shows up in leather, I' ll lead and you two can trade fashion tips via the intercoms.
What, no Starbucks?
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:10 AM   #11407
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Don't know what they were, they were in camo gear so I assumed military... what would a narco wear?
Depends. You have undercover officers and legitimate private security wearing bluejeans. And you have cartels wearing the very same uniforms that the military wears with the exception that they have their own unit badges, so unless you are intimately familiar with Mexican insignia you are not going to know if they are real or not.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:21 AM   #11408
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They were almost certainly military. It would be extremely brazen for a group of criminals dressed in military outfits in military vehicles to be out in broad daylight, that should give it away right there. I haven't heard of narcos dressed like military in a couple of years.

Narcos are really toning down their look lately, but generally country narcos dress like country boys but more flashy, with silk shirts and gold jewelry. Identification mostly has to do with age. It is one thing to see 60 year old Don Ranch Owner come to town in an Escalade wearing a 18K gold watch. It is something else to see four 20 year olds doing it. City narcos are harder to classify, the just look like common dirt-bags to me.

Private security guards usually have a clean cut look and dress like Johnny Cash. They almost always drive late model white vehicles, Tahoes or Dodge trucks. These vehicles are commonly made bullet proof. You likely wont see a convoy of these vehicles out in the country, just in the city. These are things you will pick up on with some time in Mexico.


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Like SR said.

If they have white vehicles, even 1 or 2 in a convoy, they are probably NOT official military or police unless (drum roll here) they are undercover.

There are plenty of subtleties with "real" military vehicles and weapons too. I doubt if you will ever see an AK in the hands of the military although certain police might carry them. Mexico uses a variety of rifles but they usually keep the guys with H&K G3's together and the guys with other rifles together so they can share ammo (the G3's fire .30 and just about everything else that they carry fires .223).

But bottom line is like SR said - the cartels using fake uniforms en masse and holding towns and roads hasn't happened for a year or two. They were doing that along Rt. 2 between Reynosa and Nuevo Laredo when I left McAllen but that was over a year ago.

Right now, unless you are in a really rural and contested area, you'd have to be pretty unlucky to encounter a cartel road block. And even if you do you can be pretty sure they aren't looking for you, so just be respectful and the overwhelming odds are they will let you through.

Do the regulars agree or disagree?
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:37 AM   #11409
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You need to be more concerned with the white Tsuru saloons. They cruise the streets checking out innocent civilians at the side of the roads, often slowing right down to get a good look at their potential victim.

They pick up seemingly random people from the side of the road, then disappear with them into the traffic at high speed.

No one knows how long the people are held, but it's a common sight to see pale and shaken men, women and children getting dropped at the side of the road. They can even be seen paying for their freedom directly to the driver. These criminals have no shame!

It's a huge business in Mexico. Clearly the government is doing nothing about it, in fact, some of the more enterprising criminals actually use white mini-buses so they can pack more people in. They often leave the windows open a little and the look of misery on the captive's faces would break your heart.

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Old 12-12-2012, 08:45 AM   #11410
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Agree.
And again, I think the guy who is posting about this is reporting what is new to him, but pretty much common place for anyone here.
People here have gotten so used to the military doing the policing, it is odd to see a regular cop.
For example, I had a toe to toe with a Transito here the other day for the first time in awhile. Hadn't seen one for some time since they were all pretty much fired and sent packing when the military took over policing. He was the same breed of corrupt a-hole they had before so they still haven't worked the bugs out of that part of the system. Normal cops here are hard to find, the military are what you usually see.
If I don't see the military I get the Spider Sense tingles.
Some locales still have state police but these guys have been supposedly vetted and freshly trained, but like everyone knows it is BS.
You won't solve the policing problem until you get rid of corrupt state governments.

As for little Sr. Pena Miento, he's made his deal with the cartels, so they'll stop the extortion and kidnapping and kick back mucho to the chosen ones. And that is that. Back to business as usual to the epoc before the PAN finally won the presidency.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:48 AM   #11411
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You need to be more concerned with the white Tsuru saloons. They cruise the streets checking out innocent civilians at the side of the roads, often slowing right down to get a good look at their potential victim.

They pick up seemingly random people from the side of the road, then disappear with them into the traffic at high speed.

No one knows how long the people are held, but it's a common sight to see pale and shaken men, women and children getting dropped at the side of the road. They can even be seen paying for their freedom directly to the driver. These criminals have no shame!

It's a huge business in Mexico. Clearly the government is doing nothing about it, in fact, some of the more enterprising criminals actually use white mini-buses so they can pack more people in. They often leave the windows open a little and the look of misery on the captive's faces would break your heart.

Excellent. They often also have a high tech Chinese made little B and W TV on the dash whereby they can monitor the government controlled telecommunications system called Televisa.

Steve, Rafa has your llanta, see you Friday.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:00 AM   #11412
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Excellent. They often also have a high tech Chinese made little B and W TV on the dash whereby they can monitor the government controlled telecommunications system called Televisa.

Steve, Rafa has your llanta, see you Friday.
Cool! I've heard about this concept called "traction" it'll be good to experience it first hand!
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:15 PM   #11413
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You need to be more concerned with the white Tsuru saloons. They cruise the streets checking out innocent civilians at the side of the roads, often slowing right down to get a good look at their potential victim.


Don't do that. You will scare the noobs.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:24 PM   #11414
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Agree.
And again, I think the guy who is posting about this is reporting what is new to him, but pretty much common place for anyone here.
People here have gotten so used to the military doing the policing, it is odd to see a regular cop.

A lot of Norte Americanos freak out when they see the military with big guns. When I was in Laredo a few weeks ago I noticed that while the military was rousting some guy on the street and checking his paperwork that all the old men and women just kept walking down the sidewalk, pretty much oblivious to the troops. I walked by, smiled, and said "Howdy!" in Engrish and the guys just smiled at me and nodded.

Oh, and a couple of weeks ago there wasn't a Transito or Metropolitan cop to be seen. The "state police" were in force with new white trucks - probably the old trucks repainted but you know what I mean. Someone got reorganized once again.

As many times as they have had to hire new cops it might be a good time for an old, overweight gringo who cannot speak much in the way of Spanish to apply for a job; the pool of talent must be pretty shallow lately.


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As for little Sr. Pena Miento, he's made his deal with the cartels, so they'll stop the extortion and kidnapping and kick back mucho to the chosen ones. And that is that. Back to business as usual to the epoc before the PAN finally won the presidency.

Yup. it's not the 'merican way, at least officially, but I predict a return to what used to pass as normal, at least in Tamaulipas. The public is sick and tired of the Zetas and everyone knows that if the military, the Gulf Cartel, and the local vigilantes start reading from the same script that it's going to be a bad time to be a Zeta.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:01 PM   #11415
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So I was headed toward Durango from Guanchochi today, had decided to take 24 south, just before Parral, for two reasons - it looked shorter but also twistier than the other option, Mex 45 from Parral.
[....] I point across the road to 24 south and he starts getting fairly animated "Solo, no, solo, no" and wagging his finger at me. He says going the Parral route is better.

[...] The next minute a truck with a manned machine gun mounted in the bed takes off down 24 - I guess that seals it eh? I took the old guys advice and went via Parral.

I'm not paranoid, just cautious and feeling my way... trying to figure out what "signs" to take notice of and what to ignore...

Here's the road not taken... anyone know if there was any truth to what the old guy was saying?
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MX24 west of Parral last week? Could it have been related to this?

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2012/1...ttles-for.html
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