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Old 02-24-2013, 05:59 PM   #13426
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Hank just put on a new set of Tourances on my bike, but for next month's destination (Cabo), he'll be putting on a set of these Heidenaus:

It's what he wanted to put on in the first place, but I (foolishly) resisted.

I'm told these are not perfect when the road is wet, but will be (much) better for the dirt in Baja.

No, I will not be taking the GS anywhere near deep sand. Thanks for asking!
They actually work very well in sand, depending of course on how deep, from what Crashmaster has written there is a lot of sand to be had in Baja.

I did a lot of riding on dirt in Colorado on two sets of Tourance, and the DR650 I rode in SA had Tourance... a very satisfactory tire... I put on the K60's and satisfaction took on a whole new meaning... I got much farther up an icy, snowy county road before I fell down and had to turn back . The rear also does not tend to "weave" on the gravel roads the way the Tourance did. I had some very unpleasant times in the sand in NM in 2011, in 2012 the sand proved to be far less of a problem, even fully loaded. Dropping tire pressures has been very helpful. PM me Trice and I will let you know what has worked.

I have been very nervous about the K60's on the pavement or when it is a bit damp since rumors I have heard and Radioman's get off in CA (he never blamed it on the tire but he sure as hell took it off right away as I recall) I hope that we can meet up in Baja and do some comparing, or at least tale telling.

I feel much more comfortable on the K60's on the pavement after my day with MikeMike doing the Jimmy route. It was dry but it is very twisty so I got to work towards the edge more.

Off and on there has been some discussion here about riding cuotas and not riding cuotas. If you have a chance do not miss the new cuota that runs between Perote and Xalapa: nothing like being locked into the groove like you were on rails in an 80mph sweeper that lasts for... it seems like... minutes... smooth pavement, banked like a track and no, repeat no, traffic, get it while you can boys. No doubt you 500 mile boys could do it at 120.

I had a really nice 85 mile day last week, Tulcinango, Hidalgo to Papantla, Veracruz. Great lunch at Mi Ranchito in Xicotepec... a nice ride through the foothills and up to Papantla... left at noon got in around 5PM and stayed at a nice hotel. Of course I am a traveler who happens to be using a motorcycle on this particular trip, not a motorcyclist who likes to travel. There is a big difference. I am learning that every day. My hats off to those of you who can bank out 500 or more miles a day on your motos... I did a couple of 400 plus mile days in 40 degree temps back in Nov and nein danke... even with great electrics... for me it just becomes too damn dangerous that last 100 miles... chacun a son gout.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:12 PM   #13427
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Boxes

Trice,
I would go with the boxes, gets all of that high stuff down lower, you want lower cg... when you are up on the pegs with all of that stuff up high it becomes like an inverse pendulum and you have to work to get it swing the other way when you really want all of the weight lower than your but not as high as your waist so it swings more with your foot weight on the pegs. Am I making sense. Take it out loaded each way and just foot steer like you were skiing or doing a fast downhill on your MTB. I think you will see what I mean. But I am not Ramey Stroud. Email him.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:24 PM   #13428
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"Could Mexico owe its "success" to the fact that it has outsourced most of its poverty to the US? The US taxpayer now subsidizes 25% of Mexico's population by educating, housing, and feeding them, etc. To add to this Mexican citizens in the US remit almost all of their tax-free earnings back to Mexico tax free."
I got that same email from a former club member en Florida. Honestly, I think it's just more Mexican hating nonsense tuned to fit the moment.

Tax free? What about payroll taxes withheld? Most people in that tax bracket get a refund because they overpaid.


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Old 02-24-2013, 06:26 PM   #13429
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Dry Bags

Not a big fan of SealLine from rafting experience... and they are expensive. I have been using Ortlieb bags on the bike and am happy so far but have not been in torrential rains... may see some of those as I head out to Yucatan and over to Chiapas. I like the Ortliebs because they are top opening and easy to load/unload, have a good sealing and fastening system. Best dry bag I have ever used is the Bill's bag from NRS... it keeps stuff dry!
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:36 PM   #13430
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Well, hard cases are...uhhh...hard. The bruise on terrapineck's calf will attest to just how hard his Jesse's are. I don't like hard cases off-pavement especially on anything above a class one road. But I agree that the weight should be carried as low as possible. Hence the GL Great Basin or maybe the bags connection wide bag that comes down on the sides.

Or maybe that high dollar Kriega side bag set up. I have a Kriega 20 and it is well made.


For a seat/tailrack bag I love the Motofizz bag I took to Mexico. I will be using that, my TT seat bag, and a set of tank panniers next trip.( Probably mount a Rollie to each side.)
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:37 PM   #13431
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Concept configuration.

Leaving the boxes home.
Huh? Back off the tequila. Put your side boxes back on. Always pack as low as possible. Leave the hard top case at home if you can fit it all in the side cases.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:38 PM   #13432
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Full Disclosure: I am not a king of tire repair issues. There are a lot of riders better at it than I am.

That said, other than a sliced tire near Palenque, I've been able to handle all my own flats quickly and efficiently.

And that flat near Palenque? Well, I just hung around with Ester until I decided what to do.
Does Mrs. Tricepilot read this thread?
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:44 PM   #13433
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Well, hard cases are...uhhh...hard. The bruise on terrapineck's calf will attest to just how hard his Jesse's are.
And the dozens of spiral fractures that ADVers have had over the years. And the repairs after crashing.

I run awesome aluminum cases but I should be using GL. I strongly advise against the hard cases for rough/offroad use. Hell, even Ted Simon says not to use hard cases.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:44 PM   #13434
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:57 PM   #13435
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But I am not Ramey Stroud. Email him.
This is Ramey Stroud.

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Old 02-24-2013, 07:03 PM   #13436
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+1 on the Motofizz tail bag. Holds a lot of stuff and packs well. Pretty convenient too.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:06 PM   #13437
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I have a Kriega 50L combo. I can't say yet how waterproof they are, but they kept out dust that managed to get in my waterproof contour camera.

I hate my sidebags too, so unless I need the extra space, the Kriegas on the seat work well. I didn't notice them on my run up the volcano last week (had a fully stuffed E55 Givi topbox too.)

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Old 02-24-2013, 07:07 PM   #13438
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And the dozens of spiral fractures that ADVers have had over the years. And the repairs after crashing.

I run awesome aluminum cases but I should be using GL. I strongly advise against the hard cases for rough/offroad use. Hell, even Ted Simon says not to use hard cases.
+ a bunch. Hard cases will break yo leg.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:36 PM   #13439
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Hard Case Breaks

Ditto Jimmex on the hard cases. We had a guy break his ankle in SA when he was making a u turn on a paved road on a GS put his foot down while he was still rolling and it got caught between ground and case and the ankle broke. Experienced GS rider, end of SA trip. He would later have a head on with a Corvette who had crossed the CL in France. Pierre walked away... fiberglass Corvette front end destroyed... lucky for Pierre that the fiberglass absorbed most of the impact.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:45 PM   #13440
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Whatever you do, don't do Class 2 and above stuff packed like this idiot.



I can just imagine how much fun sand would have been.
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