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Old 02-10-2010, 02:08 PM   #1
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TW200, or something else?

So my primary bike, a small standard with touring-friendly mods to it, has seen more dirt roads than is sane and rational and I'm scaring my riding friends. I need a dualsport!

Complications: must be short and lightweight. I'm 5'2" and have short legs, plus a mangled right leg from one offroad adventure a few years ago.

My dream dualsport has always been the KLR250, but unless I get super-moto tires on it, I'm uncomfortable riding it. I know this bike can be lowered, the seat cushion can be shaved down, etc... I don't think it would be enough.

I finally convinced a friend to go riding my doing the MSF course with him, where they had a TW200. Now I want one! It's got a seat plenty low enough to be comfortable, and it's light enough that it's an absolute blast to ride.

Here's the riding I plan on doing:
Commuting in winter, my house is on a dirt (not gravel) road and the street bikes hate it.
Trail riding, nothing fancy or terribly over-exciting, mostly looking at the big open dirt roads around western Washington
Touring backroads & unpaved places like Baja Mexico or Alaska or those neat roads I've seen in the Mojave desert - I'd trailer the bike to the locations.
Motorcycle camping!

What's making me drool over the TW besides seat height and weight, is it's fuel-injected. All of my bikes have carbs, which is a pain here in Washington, it's cold and takes serious work to get the bikes started.

But, the TW200 doesn't go fast enough for freeways, I've been told. I'm a bit torn about that, hence trying to find other alternatives to consider. Going "to town" requires getting on a road with a 50 mph speed limit, and going to anywhere else requires freeway with a 60mph speed limit. Not heavily-used roads, but I'd not want to be stuck going much under the speed limits.

I don't have a price range, I'm more interested in getting a bike that'll work for what I want to do and worrying about cost and how I'll afford it after the bike is picked. That's how all my bikes have been bought. Somehow, I always find the money for them!

Any suggestions, comments, 2x4s to my head for some essential things I'm overlooking, would be much appreciated!


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Old 02-10-2010, 02:19 PM   #2
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The TW200 should do just fine.
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:42 PM   #3
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What's making me drool over the TW besides seat height and weight, is it's fuel-injected. All of my bikes have carbs, which is a pain here in Washington, it's cold and takes serious work to get the bikes started.
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I'm not entirely sure that its fuel-injected. From Yamaha's website it shows it has a Mikuni 28mm on it. Thats still carburetored or am I wrong?
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:54 PM   #4
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For what you describe, the TW is a fantastic choice. They are not fuel injected (yet). Other bikes you might want to compare it to are Yam's own XT250- higher top speed, Honda's CRF230L- has a 6 speed box, Kawasaki Super Sherpa- also a 6 spd, and a Suzuki DR200. Relatively similar bikes, those. The TW has been around a LONG time with the only change being to the front brake (I don't remember the year). I would definitely look at a lightly used bike.

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Old 02-10-2010, 03:05 PM   #5
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Hm, that's interesting. Maybe the one I was riding was modified, because it definitely was fuel-injected. Ah well...

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Old 02-10-2010, 03:07 PM   #6
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For what you describe, the TW is a fantastic choice. They are not fuel injected (yet). Other bikes you might want to compare it to are Yam's own XT250- higher top speed, Honda's CRF230L- has a 6 speed box, Kawasaki Super Sherpa- also a 6 spd, and a Suzuki DR200. Relatively similar bikes, those. The TW has been around a LONG time with the only change being to the front brake (I don't remember the year). I would definitely look at a lightly used bike.

Welcome and good luck!
Thank you so much! I'll take a look at those other bikes. :)

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Old 02-10-2010, 03:36 PM   #7
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The CRFL is only slightly taller than the TW, and the XT is only slightly taller than the CRFL.
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Old 02-10-2010, 03:37 PM   #8
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Can't go wrong with the TW, best bang for the buck out there!

Good luck with whatever you choose.

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Old 02-10-2010, 04:37 PM   #9
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180 rear tire! Come on.

For your needs a TW is perfect. I like the Sherpa as well but......... the TW is our 4th bike and the one I ride the most out of all of em. I ride to work 95% but never take it to the pub hehe. Its so easy to just throw my backpack on the rack and go. Not much has changed. They did go away with the kick start as well as a little different spedo (add a trip meter). No EFI. Any gearing you want, 65 tops but 55 easy for this 1998 street only commuter rig.




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Old 02-10-2010, 07:07 PM   #10
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So my primary bike, a small standard with touring-friendly mods to it, has seen more dirt roads than is sane and rational and I'm scaring my riding friends. I need a dualsport!

Complications: must be short and lightweight. I'm 5'2" and have short legs, plus a mangled right leg from one offroad adventure a few years ago.

Here's the riding I plan on doing:
Commuting in winter, my house is on a dirt (not gravel) road and the street bikes hate it.
Trail riding, nothing fancy or terribly over-exciting, mostly looking at the big open dirt roads around western Washington
Touring backroads & unpaved places like Baja Mexico or Alaska or those neat roads I've seen in the Mojave desert - I'd trailer the bike to the locations.
Motorcycle camping!

What's making me drool over the TW besides seat height and weight, is it's fuel-injected. All of my bikes have carbs, which is a pain here in Washington, it's cold and takes serious work to get the bikes started.

But, the TW200 doesn't go fast enough for freeways, I've been told. I'm a bit torn about that, hence trying to find other alternatives to consider. Going "to town" requires getting on a road with a 50 mph speed limit, and going to anywhere else requires freeway with a 60mph speed limit. Not heavily-used roads, but I'd not want to be stuck going much under the speed limits.

Kari
TW200 would be OK for your wants. The wide tires would be nice for sandy roads in Mexico. You can gear it up a little for lower hwy revs with a larger front sprocket, but a 200cc isn't going to be a slab rocket.

Other decent choices could be the XT225, CRF230L, KL250 Super Sherpa...all 6spds. The XT250 is a wide-ratio 5spd.

None of these bikes is EFI. For better cold starting though, adjust the carbing. Most bikes are adjusted quite lean from the factory, which makes them cold-blooded. Running synthetic oil after a few thousand miles of wear-in can make cold-starting easier too.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:14 PM   #11
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Maybe a WR250R in Supermoto trim or a lowered R. Fuel injected, not overly expensive, and more than likely better on both the road and the dirt.

T Dubs are fun bikes though, just light in gearing and HP.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:20 PM   #12
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The Sherpa will do 70 on the hiway all day with me on it (230lbs). Happy Trails makes lowering links... lowered one for my wife,,, she's 5"2". It's a great bike... only thing the TW would be better at is deep sand with that fat tire.... otherwise the Sherpa wins in every category.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:24 PM   #13
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Maybe a WR250R in Supermoto trim or a lowered R. Fuel injected, not overly expensive, and more than likely better on both the road and the dirt.

T Dubs are fun bikes though, just light in gearing and HP.
At 5'2" with short legs, Kari is gonna have a hard time lowering the WRR or WRX enough to be comfy. Great bike, but also pretty tall.
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:14 PM   #14
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Nothing wrong with any of these, but my vote goes to the DR200. It is cheap, simple, regular sized tires, big gas tank, and mine would haul my 225 lbs. at a tick over 70 mph (after a while to get there). 55-60 no problem. 85 mpg regularly. The only one of the others that I think I would consider now would be a Super Sherpa. Its main drawback is the smallish tank.
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Old 02-10-2010, 09:36 PM   #15
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I'd really like to get a smaller dual sport some day. You know, for the wife .

The TW looks like a lot of fun, but part of me really wants an xt225. Could be because I read Lois on the Loose.

Both bikes look like a lot of fun.

(Note, I haven't ridden either.)
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