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Old 02-18-2010, 05:47 PM   #61
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I have quantity six, 180mm diameter, 6.5mm thick (friction surface thickness) four puck ceramic clutches coming to me from my clutch builder. Correct splines / hub thickness for the BMW R1100 GS - direct drop in with out the shims needed for the TT / Sachs clutch. I had to get six because of the custom build so, one for me and five for ???? Pricing I have no idea... definitely more than a standard Beetle clutch but way less than the TT / Sachs clutch!
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Old 02-18-2010, 06:47 PM   #62
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:07 PM   #63
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If it will fit an hp2 enduro I am interested
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:12 PM   #64
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Best GSpot thread in months.
Not to mention, it brought Ricky Patineto out of the woodwork...

My mind has been cogitating on Poolside's comment about the unbalanced clutch disk wearing the splines... wild and scary hypothesis, and you have to wonder why the mother ship would let such a glaring flaw slip through.
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:27 PM   #65
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I have quantity six, 180mm diameter, 6.5mm thick (friction surface thickness) four puck ceramic clutches coming to me from my clutch builder. Correct splines / hub thickness for the BMW R1100 GS - direct drop in with out the shims needed for the TT / Sachs clutch. I had to get six because of the custom build so, one for me and five for ???? Pricing I have no idea... definitely more than a standard Beetle clutch but way less than the TT / Sachs clutch!
Are they balanced?
BTW, nice job on the winter Olympics so far....
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:30 PM   #66
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You may want to get them built with an offset hub to compensate for less than 100% spline engagement for the 1150's
http://www.sunshinecoast.ca/bmw/InputShaft.pdf
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:36 PM   #67
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Broken clutch disc.

Any further details such as brand or model? I don't want one of these!

But, the splines look OK......
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:04 PM   #68
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THIS is what you want. Simply amazing. This thing takes everything you can throw at it.

LOVE MINE.

Less chatter and glazing than those goofy puck discs. They are nothing but trouble in the VW' s too.
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:08 PM   #69
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You may want to get them built with an offset hub to compensate for less than 100% spline engagement for the 1150's
The offset hub, combined with no pilot bearing, is what causes the spline wear. It'd require some imagination to get a pilot bearing there because of the clutch actuator rod.

I agree though, a longer 'snout' on the clutch hub might help matters. Since the input shaft wear is from the snout side of the clutch hub. There is some extra spline that the clutch hub isn't engaged with, so another maybe 15mm of clutch hub would have spline.

The VW clutch disk does have a longer snout, I think, from what the OP was saying. So maybe it doesn't even need to be faced to length and can be used as is.



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Old 02-18-2010, 08:11 PM   #70
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Any further details such as brand or model? I don't want one of these!

But, the splines look OK......
Dang I posted the link. Click it for more info.

http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/bmw_clutches.html

This site is pretty interesting. I think it is current they have R1200GS clutches for sale.
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Old 02-19-2010, 07:16 AM   #71
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Are they balanced?
BTW, nice job on the winter Olympics so far....
Yes they are balanced! The place that is making them for me makes their living doing clutches!

Yer welcome on the Olympics - I'll be paying for them for the rest of my and my kids life - enjoy them!
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Old 02-19-2010, 07:19 AM   #72
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If it will fit an hp2 enduro I am interested
I have no idea if they would work or not... well... I take that back... I think the 1200s have a different spline count so, no, I don't think the discs that are getting made up will work on a 1200 series bike.
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Old 02-19-2010, 07:21 AM   #73
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Dang I posted the link. Click it for more info.

http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/bmw_clutches.html

This site is pretty interesting. I think it is current they have R1200GS clutches for sale.
These guys lists clutches for sale, but don't have any to sell... else I and a few other people would have bought them. They look like a good idea!
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Old 02-19-2010, 10:37 AM   #74
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These guys lists clutches for sale, but don't have any to sell... else I and a few other people would have bought them. They look like a good idea!
RB Racing scares me. When I read the website, I expect a giant fist with big skull rings to punch me in the face.
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:19 PM   #75
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The offset hub, combined with no pilot bearing, is what causes the spline wear. It'd require some imagination to get a pilot bearing there because of the clutch actuator rod.

I agree though, a longer 'snout' on the clutch hub might help matters. Since the input shaft wear is from the snout side of the clutch hub. There is some extra spline that the clutch hub isn't engaged with, so another maybe 15mm of clutch hub would have spline.

The VW clutch disk does have a longer snout, I think, from what the OP was saying. So maybe it doesn't even need to be faced to length and can be used as is.


Does anybody have any experience with this?

http://www.sunshinecoast.ca/bmw/InputShaft.pdf

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