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Old 05-16-2013, 08:42 AM   #556
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The 99 Triumph that this KTM replaces routinely got high-40s and occasionally low-50s. I don't really care about the MPG so much as motorcycling isn't a cheap hobby to start with, but the lack of range is a little annoying. One of my touring partners now rides a Monster, however, so I'm not the shortest range in the group!
It gets a bit more important when 1) the bike costs twice as much here
then in the US, 2) the fuel is twice as expensive and 3) when you make
1/4 of the average monthly $$$ of an average US resident.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:02 AM   #557
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Those are numbers I couldn't live with.

Modern car engines are getting waaaay less thirsty in the last few years,
I can't wait for bikes to catch up. Ok, the NC700X is there, but with under
50hp, probably not interesting to 90% of SM-T owners.

However, the Yam Super Tenere with 1200cc engine is usually reported
to return 46-56MPG! That's amazing.
Getting 38-42 on my Yam S10 with lot's of action from my happy hand!
I like the S10 a lot but it's a heavy adventure tourer, not a SMT.

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Old 05-16-2013, 09:04 AM   #558
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Getting 38-42 on my Yam S10 with lot's of action from my happy hand!
I like the S10 a lot but it's a heavy adventure tourer, not a SMT.

Regards, Paul
Exactly!

It should be the other way around, right?
It's heavier, has more engine capacity, and it's also a twin!

But people say that vibes are bad, so.. gimme my SM-T.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:19 AM   #559
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It gets a bit more important when 1) the bike costs twice as much here
then in the US, 2) the fuel is twice as expensive and 3) when you make
1/4 of the average monthly $$$ of an average US resident.
Can't argue with those stats - every MPG would definitely count.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:54 AM   #560
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Can't argue with those stats - every MPG would definitely count.
Yeah.
I just spent 1/4 of my monthly income just riding around town doing stuff
on my FZ6, mostly taking it easy with the throttle.. so.. yeah..

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Old 05-16-2013, 07:53 PM   #561
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Exactly!

It should be the other way around, right?
It's heavier, has more engine capacity, and it's also a twin!

But people say that vibes are bad, so.. gimme my SM-T.
Vibes are not bad at all. Ya gotta ride one before ya pass judgement.

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Old 05-16-2013, 11:56 PM   #562
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Vibes are not bad at all. Ya gotta ride one before ya pass judgement.

Regards, Paul
I sold my last parellel twin (180 deg firing order) because of the vibes,
and it had half the engine.

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Old 05-17-2013, 06:43 AM   #563
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The vibes on the SMT are not that bad. I don't have a lot to go off of since I've only ridden a few different bikes. I just recently rode a mutistrada and it have almost no vibes. So to compair the two the smt had very little vibes. Now my DRZ felt like a push mower.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:20 AM   #564
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The vibes on the SMT are not that bad. I don't have a lot to go off of since I've only ridden a few different bikes. I just recently rode a mutistrada and it have almost no vibes. So to compair the two the smt had very little vibes. Now my DRZ felt like a push mower.
I meant the Super10 when speaking of vibes..

V-twins are mostly all fine.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:39 AM   #565
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The 99 Triumph that this KTM replaces routinely got high-40s and occasionally low-50s. I don't really care about the MPG so much as motorcycling isn't a cheap hobby to start with, but the lack of range is a little annoying. One of my touring partners now rides a Monster, however, so I'm not the shortest range in the group!
I don't own an SMT yet - it's on my short list for the coming year, along with 1190, HyperStrada, Tiger 800 and maybe SuperTenere - but range is the number 1 deterrent. My carb'ed Monster 900 can eke out 180+ miles on a tank in moderate sport-touring mode, under 150 in more varied riding. But in the Western US I consider that a bare minimum, and for the kind of roads and rides that I think an SMT would excel at, 200-250 miles is a useful range. My WeeStrom and my DR650 with IMS tank can both exceed 200 miles easily, and it's spoiled me. I ride at least two routes that require an honest 200 mile range without going out of the way to get fuel. And this is in California, not Australia or Alaska. It's ironic that the GSA and Stelvio are at one extreme of tank size, but other Euro bikes generally fall short, although my friend's 955 Sprint can make nearly 300 miles in the right conditions.

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Old 05-17-2013, 07:58 AM   #566
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What did your DRZ and Weestrom do before their IMS tanks?
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:06 AM   #567
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Getting 38-42 on my Yam S10 with lot's of action from my happy hand!
I like the S10 a lot but it's a heavy adventure tourer, not a SMT.

Regards, Paul
That seems more reasonable than what Cortez was quoting.

On my mixed commute, usually with some stop and go, I've averaged 33.6 over the last 2 years compared to the 41-42 of my SV650.

My best mileage on the KTM was 43 and the SV650 has recorded as high as 59.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:33 AM   #568
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What did your DRZ and Weestrom do before their IMS tanks?
I bought the DR used and it already had the big tank ... agree that may not be an apples-to-apples comparison, but big tanks are available cheap for almost all thumpers so it's almost a given that these bikes can have great range for very little cost. The VStrom has the stock 5.something US gallon tank and at a consistent 48-55 US mpg 200+ mile tanks are also a given. Of course performance-wise these bikes aren't even on the same continent as an SMT, but if an 1190 Adventure gets significantly more range (better mpg + bigger tank) that could be a factor in my purchase decision. Or, assuming the 1190 gets better mileage than the 990, wait for the 1190 SMT, even if it has a smaller tank than the Adv .... if there will be one.

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Old 05-17-2013, 10:05 AM   #569
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I'm used to bad mileage on my SV1, and I still want a SMT. I can live with 30-40. I'll probably add a rotopax can to the tail rack for serious touring.
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:48 AM   #570
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I'm used to bad mileage on my SV1, and I still want a SMT. I can live with 30-40. I'll probably add a rotopax can to the tail rack for serious touring.
I believe some of the SM and SM/R guys have found a way to get the massive Safari tank from the 950 Super Enduro onto their bikes. Maybe an option for those in need?
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