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Old 03-03-2010, 10:18 AM   #16
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There is no route showing up under the route tab.
First you need to install the custom map. Then you create any route you want using the route tool. The map itself is routable, so you can make you own routes like you would using the City Navigator map for example.

It's a bit of a leap in coolness factor so it may be difficult grok at first. Just trust me. Install the map. Select it in MapSource and pull out the routing tool and start clicking on trails and you'll understand whats happening immediately.
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:21 AM   #17
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First you need to install the custom map. Then you create any route you want using the route tool. The map itself is routable, so you can make you own routes like you would using the City Navigator map for example.

It's a bit of a leap in coolness factor so it may be difficult grok at first. Just trust me. Install the map. Select it in MapSource and pull out the routing tool and start clicking on trails and you'll understand whats happening immediately.
I see what your saying now, I thought that the maps were already routes.
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Old 03-21-2010, 02:22 PM   #18
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Maps Vs Tracks

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Is there an advantage to using the maps over the tracks?
Yes, there's a considerable advantage. I switched from Tracks to making my own maps from tracks when I exceeded the 20 track limit in my 60Cx. It was also a pain to juggle around the 20 tracks I needed whenever I took off on a multi-day DualSport Adventure ride. With maps, I have approx 1000 tracks in a single mapset that's loaded alongwith City Navigator, US Roads & Recreation and Topo and it can be turned ON/OFF just like the Garmin maps. Load it once and forget it (until new tracks are accquired and a map update is made).

A secondary benefit is that you use the original tracklog (with up to 10,000 points) in the map but the tracks need to be filtered to 500 points so you have much higher detail available.

I initially got interested in this when I found the Zumo couldn't display multiple tracks and my riding buddy had just bought one and wasn't too happy.

See this Zumo Forum thread
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:11 PM   #19
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Hey Bob, did you make it back home yet?
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Old 03-25-2010, 02:24 PM   #20
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Hey Bob, did you make it back home yet?
Yes, we're home - left Tucson early due to my back/leg problem so I could get medical assistance back in Ontario.

I checked out your maps and they work very well - you've done a good job, especially the routing function. I haven't found out how to do that yet with my custom maps.

I've ridden those trails and I would point out that a GPS isn't really necessary at H-M. The maps you get when you buy your Trail Pass are excellent and usually need to be marked up by the Ranger to show which trails are Open/Closed that day. Every trail intersection is signposted by difficulty, Trail #, etc so it's really hard to get lost, but you have to remember it's a trail ride - there is no destination. Leave your GPS at home and just enjoy the ride
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Old 03-26-2010, 02:56 AM   #21
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there is no destination.
I have, and still plan some of my rides using the parks as vias. There is a lot of good riding in between them. These routeable maps allow for a little cleaner planning.

It is forbidden for you to ingress and egress except for the designated trail heads. But, many of the parks have trail heads on opposite ends allowing for them to be stitched together.

So, you can treat them as a sand box. Or, you can use them as via to a destination. And, certainly pick up a map when you enter, they are very dynamic.
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Old 03-26-2010, 09:34 AM   #22
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Damn Bob, you do get around. You very well may be correct about the maps utility. I've never been there, but having some trail maps super imposed on my CN maps doesn't sound like it will hurt when I do get my butt out there.

Mainly, it seemed like a nice way to expand my map making skills. The skill you introduced me too. Thanks for that BTW.
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:30 PM   #23
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crafty, could you export them as a GPX track? i just want to have something to follow on my Delorme unit when i visit there this May. PM me if this is possible. Thanks, jon.
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:51 PM   #24
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CC, Any chance you have something for Indian Ridge?

Now to figure out how to get your colors over to Delorme Topo 8.

I think I need to convert the shp file to a txt file and I can import it into topo 8
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:07 PM   #25
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CC, Any chance you have something for Indian Ridge?
No, I didn't know about another area. I'll look into it. If you want to ride it and send me tracks, I make a map out of it.
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No, I didn't know about another area. I'll look into it. If you want to ride it and send me tracks, I make a map out of it.
Looks like I am going down there Memorial Day weekend.
Staying in Welch I think. We will ride Saturday and Sunday.
I am told we can ride Pinnacle Creek or Indian Ridge Trials, or "free lance" in this large area south of Welch.
Here is a link to the Indian Ridge system map.
http://www.trailsheaven.com/shared/c...rch%202010.pdf
I just want to have all the maps already loaded on the PN40 before I leave.

Then 10 day later I leave on the other bike to proof ride the TPAT.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:01 AM   #27
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Looks like I am going down there Memorial Day weekend.
Staying in Welch I think. We will ride Saturday and Sunday.
I am told we can ride Pinnacle Creek or Indian Ridge Trials, or "free lance" in this large area south of Welch.
Here is a link to the Indian Ridge system map.
http://www.trailsheaven.com/shared/c...rch%202010.pdf
I just want to have all the maps already loaded on the PN40 before I leave.

Then 10 day later I leave on the other bike to proof ride the TPAT.

Unless you have your heart set on Welch, stay at the Executive in Pineville or the Ashland Resort in Ashland.

The Executive is within about ten minutes of the Pinnacle trail head. There is a restaurant and bar in the motel. It's a decent place for about 65 bucks.

The Ashland Resort is a trail head for the Indian Ridge system. It was a KOA Kampground, but just recently changed hands. They have Kabins and a shower house, all relatively new. The Ashland Company store serves food. Beer and gas is a few miles away in either Keystone or Upland.

You can ride between the two in about thirty minutes with a minimum of pavement. There is plenty of "free lance" also.
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Old 06-23-2010, 05:02 PM   #28
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Crafty thanks for posting your gps tracks for Hatfield-McCoy trails.
Do I need to join the gpsxchange.com to access the downloads?
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:40 PM   #29
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Crafty thanks for posting your gps tracks for Hatfield-McCoy trails.
Do I need to join the gpsxchange.com to access the downloads?
The gpx file is a gpsxchange, and you need to join and contribute. That is a trivial matter though. The Garmin maps are at gPSfiledepot.com. That link is in the first post.
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Old 06-28-2010, 02:20 PM   #30
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When I was down at Hatfield everyone was talking about "the outlaw trails". Some of the guys never even went in the actual Hatfield McCoy Trail area.
The first thing the lady at the hotel asked was "your not riding the hatfield trails are ya? You really want to ride the outlaw trails"
They were even selling "I Rode the Outlaw Trails" tee shirts with a guides phone number on them.
We rode only the hatfield trails.

One other thing that stood out to me was all the locals riding 4 wheelers on the roads. Some of them looked like they never ever saw dirt, just blacktop. Were talking shorts, flip flop, no helmet with beer cooler on the back type riding.

I think were going back in November.
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